The Long View: Good Frodo and Evil Gollum

The Long View
Good Frodo and Evil Gollum
By Manuel L. Quezon III
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 23:28:00 11/22/2009

IN book two of “The Fellowship of the Ring,” Celeborn, elven co-ruler of Lothl0rien, speaks directly to the readers as much as to the Fellowship when he counsels, “Do not despise the lore that has come down from distant years; for oft it may chance that old wives keep in memory word of things that once were needful for the wise to know.”

Chances are you’ve read or watched “The Lord of the Rings,” Tolkien’s saga in three volumes of how a reluctant hero is tasked with destroying a Ring of Power as a squabbling alliance of Hobbits, humans, dwarves and elves backs him up and fights titanic battles against the evil Sauron and his gruesome dark hordes. The epic is about Good and Evil, and how individuals can be one or the other, or even both, depending on the circumstances.

Some months ago Jim Paredes quipped that Noynoy Aquino is like the reluctant Hobbit hero Frodo Baggins, and that all those flocking to his aid and assistance are like the motley cast of characters that comprised the Fellowship of the Ring.

Tolkien the narrator observes of hobbits, as much as of men, of people in books as much as of people in real life, that “There is a seed of courage hidden (often deeply, it is true) in the heart of the fattest and most timid hobbit, waiting for some final and desperate danger to make it grow.”

In Book Two, the message is amplified in an exchange between Gimli the dwarf and the elf Elrond, representatives of races that do not like each other but now allied in a common quest, yet the two still disagree on how to approach the physical and even moral perils of their quest.

“Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens,” the action-oriented Gimli starts off. Elrond the jaded elf replies, “Maybe, but let him not vow to walk in the dark, who has not seen the nightfall.” Gimli counters, “Yet sworn word may strengthen quaking heart,” only for Elrond to pragmatically respond by saying, “Or break it.” This is the eternal conflict between purists and realists.

At a time when there’s a general desire to see righteousness reign in our politics, there is too great a danger of self-righteousness intruding its discordant voice, insisting, on one hand, on impossible standards for individuals while ignoring the need for a common cause to confront the greater danger. This is the danger of pride substituting for true conscientiousness.

Quite early on in Book One of “The Fellowship of the Ring,” in the second chapter, the reluctant Frodo and the wizard Gandalf discuss Gollum, the deranged previous holder of the Ring of Power from whom Frodo’s uncle, Bilbo, had taken the ring; throughout the saga Gollum represents the problem of Frodo the Good, requiring the at times sincere, and most other times, deceitful, assistance of the generally Evil Gollum.

From the very start, Frodo thinks it’s a bad thing to have to engage the help of bad people and tells Gandalf, “He deserves death.” Gandalf’s answer is instructive, laying down a theme that will persist to the end of the saga, as he repeatedly counsels the members of the Fellowship of the Ring against the perils of confusing the righteousness of their cause with the pride of self-righteousness.

“Deserves it! I daresay he does,” Gandalf agrees; but adds, “Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. I have not much hope that Gollum can be cured before he dies, but there is a chance of it. And he is bound up with the fate of the Ring. My heart tells me that he has some part to play yet, for good or ill, before the end; and when that comes, the pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many – yours not least.”

Tolkien repeatedly returns to this theme of redemption – whether partial or complete – for the bad, or the merely confused, a possibility that should temper the self-righteousness of characters themselves fully capable of departing – temporarily but at times, disastrously – from the path of righteousness. Pride, he perpetually points out, feeds the divisions self-righteousness creates and which harms Good and promotes Evil.

As the elf Haldir of Lorien, responding to the bickering and simmering tensions between allies, points out in another chapter of Book Two: “In nothing is the power of the Dark Lord more clearly shown than in the estrangement that divides all those who still oppose him.”

Gandalf himself, in Book Three, returns to the basic lesson Haldir propounded: “We are all friends here. Or should be; for the laughter of Mordor will be our only reward, if we quarrel.” Something he returns to again, much later on in Book Five, where once again self-righteousness has provoked discord and to which his reply is, “Let us remember that a traitor may betray himself and do good that he does not intend. It can be so, sometimes.”

Hope is what enabled Good to conquer Evil – for at the heart of hope is the humility to give all a chance to help fight Evil, without sneering at motives. A humility based on belief in redemption for those who once served Evil. Frodo could not do it alone, he needed help; help came from all quarters and much of it tainted by mixed motives as shown by the thoroughly bad Gollum.

Every character wrestled with the dilemma of fighting for Good yet being confronted by Evil, internal and external. Hope subdued pride, humility fostered unity and trust in Good allowed individuals as well as kingdoms to conquer the Ultimate Evil, Sauron.

As the fair elven Galadriel had told the impatient dwarf Gimli in Book Two, “I do not foretell, for all foretelling is now vain: on the one hand lies darkness, and on the other only hope. But if hope should not fail, then I say to you, Gimli son of Gloin, that your hands shall flow with gold, and yet over you gold shall have no dominion.”

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447 thoughts on “The Long View: Good Frodo and Evil Gollum

  1. GabbyD,

    It’s really confusing, if you think about it. MLQ3 really needs to answer a lot of questions – and so far he’s been avoiding my questions.

    While Gollum is supposed to be a villain/crook in the story, he was instrumental in destroying the ring, even if he betrayed them. And you could say that Frodo was – at the last moment – going to be the showstopper too. Frodo was – at the 11th hour – seduced by the ring, and almost did not destroy it when he decided to keep it for himself. Were it not for Gollum’s selfishness in wanting the ring for himself, so much so that he decided to grab it from Frodo by BITING OFF Frodo’s finger that had the ring (when Frodo decided that he wanted to keep the ring for himself).

    The point is that even “evil” Gollum served a purpose in achieving the mission of destroying the ring – and that “good” Frodo was – at several points, including the very last point before destroying the ring – the showstopper.

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    MLQ3,

    As you can see, there has been no spit on my hand at all, and I think it’s time you kept your end of the deal.

    Will you please answer the questions I’ve been asking you over and over again which several others have reiterated?

  2. http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquireropinion/letterstotheeditor/view/20091127-238642/Battle-between-Good-and-Evil

    The letter is written in mlq3’s writing style. obvious naman eh. it’s masturbatory.

    self-praise, kumbaga. mlq3 was torn to shreds on his own blog kaya na-pwersa syang magsulat ng self-praise letter-to-the editor tapos gagamit siya ng pangalan ng iba. just look at this guy descending to the depths of moral deceit. he even blows his own horn on his blog. siya mismo ang nagpost ng kanyang sariling jakoletter dito tapos ipapalabas niya na may ibang taong nagsend nun sa inquirer.

  3. gabby, the article is in the context of alliance-building in elections. of coalition-building. any candidate will have so-called originals who supported the candidate ahead of everyone else and when a candidate is succseful in courting support, the tendency is for the originals to get upset. this is particularly true when there is an idealistic character to the candidacy, and it begins as an uphill struggle but as things move on other join and the originals end up filled with suspicion. the suspicion is often anchored on the belief that only the originals have a pure and unadulterated understanding and commitment to the cause. yet the point of a campaign is to broaden support and seek out supporters, allies, and enlarge a coalition, it’s basic otherwise if you were to restrict things to what you started with there is no sense in either courting public support or seeking to enlarge a coalition without which success either at the polls or subsequently, in governing, would be possible.

  4. so many anonymous characters peddling the same conspiracy theory, you’d think they’re all multiple personalities spun off from so-called nick. 🙂

    when you guys sort it all out and stop your games maybe it will be productive to talk.

  5. Manolo,

    I’ve moved on from all that, now that d0d0ng stopped showing up here so as not to implicate you.

    My focus now is on getting you to please answer the question(s) which you have continued to avoid.

    Please answer the question(s), Manolo. (All that have been asked by everyone)

    By the way, I did a google search with the following keywords:

    “Noynoy”; “LP Platform”; “Manolo;”

    Among the first few results, this link came up:

    http://badmannersgunclub.blogspot.com/2009/11/heres-platform-but-no-ones-standing-on.html

    Apparently, the owner of the blog mentioned you…

    “One would think that a commentator with the reputation of Manolo Quezon III would be able to skillfully promote and defend his advocacy, given some ammunition like this (and he does know it exists, since he has mentioned it a couple times); instead he, like the rest of Aquino’s hysterical “yellow army”, chooses to attempt to make his case through things like obtuse and water-headed parallels to decades-old fantasy literature involving elves, and then hides behind a nickname to descend into ad hominem playground-level carping when respondents call him on his b.s., and actually asks him in plain terms to “explain” (something he claims to be good at) what Aquino plans to do to be a good president. The Long View, indeed; maybe he’d accomplish something if he’d shorten that view to something a little more practical. Unless, of course, it is his actual intention to lower public debate to moronic levels, in which case he’s doing a pretty good job; on reflection, that might not be that surprising, coming from the grandson of a man for whom a Philippines that was ‘run like hell’ seemed like a viable option.”

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    How plead you, Manolo?

    Guilty as charged?

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    Here’s your chance to give us an answer and EXPLAIN your side. 😉

    Shouldn’t be difficult. You’re “The Explainer”, are you not?

  6. @betterphilippines
    Who me? Impose? I agreed with Engr. Jojo, not impose. There is a big difference. My message is simple. You do not like the guy, don’t vote for him. Besides, don’t you think it’s the height of arrogance when one assumes that people “mindlessly” follow the herd? Seriously, how can you make that assumption and speak for these “bandwagoneers?” Have you ever been one? A lemming? Sorry BP but you do not have a monopoly of good judgement. I am sure people have reasons why they support a certain candidate no matter how shallow they may seem to you. Man, you got to give more credit. What, Noynoy has blind followers and all the rest don’t?
    Voter education? Perhaps. But look at all the other offensive and demeaning remarks on here? Are you educated by it? I think not.

    Lastly, and i hope you will indulge me, who exactly are you supporting come May 2010?

  7. Hey Nick, may i ask you why you think Noynoy is so bad that he will fail at being president? I think before anyone answers your own questions, you too should be able to explain to us why you think Noynoy is this and that. Can you give us specific examples? Who do you think is the best candidate out there?

  8. NICK MAC YAVELLEY:

    In my opinion your psychotic and opportunist and much more MAFIh MUK! Your hiding your identity a………….h……….e

  9. gian,

    of course all candidates have blind followers. and, yes, if you must know when i was younger i did vote based only on who’s popular. i’m guessing a lot of young people today would probably vote the same way.

    also, i’m sorry to disappoint you but i’m still looking. no candidate yet for me.

    btw, who said anything about a monopoly of good judgment? i know i didn’t.

    i’m just wondering if you’re aware of the irony in the fact that while noynoy’s handlers keep on presenting him as a candidate for change his rabid supporters keep on peddling the idea that noynoy’s “good character” is enough reason to pick him. now ain’t that what most filipino voters have been doing for the longest time? don’t you think that approach needs to be changed?

    if we want the coming elections to usher in change then why don’t we start by changing how we choose our leaders.

    btw, if only noynoy were more results-oriented i’d probably consider him.

  10. Sorry guys, I’ve been trying to reply to Nick’s comments on me, Noynoy and MLQ3 but my replies didn’t get a space here since yesterday. In fact, I made three attempts already, so this is a test post, if it finds a space here, I will make another try.

  11. To Nick Macwhataf*k:

    Good that you labored to look at what you called my website, actually I don’t have webpage of my own, I only have an account at Facebook. Good for you to have dug deep into my personal profile, at least you know now that I am not as COWARD as you are conveniently hiding under the nick of YOUR idol NICOLO MACHIAVELLI – A MACHOCHIST-NARCISIST, Egoistic and buff-headed intellectual like you and the likes of Hitler, Bonaparte, Marcos, etc. Sorry but your Machiavellian Concept, be it the “Prince” or “Discourse” models just doesn’t work on the Filipino mindset where VALUES play prominent role in their decision on leadership preference.

    Your arrogance had blown out of proportion when you put your words into my mouth. I DID NOT SAY that Noynoy is incompetent, unintelligent, not hardworking, not diligent and that can not express his vision for a better Philippines clearly enough. Otherwise, I won’t be supporting him also. What I DID SAY was my abjuration on anything that is “SOBRA” or Excessive Abilities and Capabilities of politicians because I dreaded their tendencies to resurrect, reincarnate the likes of Bonaparte, Hitler, Mussolini and our very own Apo Ferdie and/or replicate the likes of GMA.

    I am not espousing mediocirty here but moderate ability and moderate thinking and doing things do more good than bad. Moderately intelligent leaders in the past proved to good leaders of their people. Moses was “BULOL” that he had to employ his brother Aaron to speak for him, but he was able to liberate his people from the bondage of Egypt. Solomon, in spite of having a Royal Bloodline had to implore God’s Wisdom because he didn’t have much of it, ruled his kingdom to prominence and greatness. Simon Peter was unlettered but later on became one of the pillars of the Christian Church. Noynoy Aquino has enough abilities and capabilities, complemented by his virtues of MAKATAO and MAKADIYOS, he will surely be the best leader to inspire people and to effect the long sought transformational CHANGE. He speaks his heart out with all sincerity, but most of all, his MODESTY, HUMILITY, HONESTY and INTEGRITY earned him the adoration of the great multitude of more that 50% of Filipinos who gravitated towards his leadership and hopefully after the election, more will follow suit. This is the most important thing TRUST of the People so that the desired tangible results for a better Philippines can be achieved. Noynoy need not go into specifics and details, in any undertakings, the first things to do is see to it that the 5s are instituted before laying out the foundation for a favorable environment for development.

    Among the present circle of winnable presidential aspirants, Gibo Teodoro maybe qualified but SECOND ONLY TO NOYNOY. THIS IS NOT FANTASY, NOT EMOTIONALISM, THIS IS NOT SENTIMENTALITY, THIS IS INTUITION. You do not have the monopoly of good judgment, so DO NOT LECTURE us on our leadership preference. Your Noynoy Presidency DOOMSDAY scenario and your equation is a product of A SICK MIND and VALUELESS CHARACTER.

    You are questiong my being an Engineer. How dare you? I was a one-time BOARD PASSER sans formal review and almost landed in the top 10 among thousands of examinees. Who are you to lecture me on the HOWs and WHYs and Tangible Results? We Engineers based our designs and decisions on Natural Laws, the basic foundation of all Laws. We worked on SMART Plans and Designs providing Details and Specifications. Politicians work
    on Rhetorical Speeches, Dreams and Visions, and these are usually articulated into non-technical plans so that if they are not materialized and implemented, will just remain dreams and visions. The Presidency is not just Speeches, Rhetorics, Dreams and Vision, it is about Management and Leadership. Managerial Skills can be acquired but INNATE LEADERSHIP CHARACTER can not be. We see this Innate Leadership Character in Noynoy and you can disagree to the max until smoke will be going out of your ears, I wouldn’t care less.

    You are asking what the hell is my reason for supporting Noynoy? Well I don’t swear by hell, but simply put, these are my reasons:

    1. He is Intelligent ENOUGH
    2. He is Diligent and Hardworking ENOUGH
    3. He is VERY Sincere, Honest, Humble, and God-fearing
    4. He is VERY Clean and Untainted with Corruption
    5. He Advocated Accountability, Transparency & Good Governance
    6. He Knows How to Listen & Advocate of Participatory Democracy
    7. He has a VERY good Breeding
    8. He has No Political Debt
    9. He has No First Lady to Appeased with
    10. He is A WINNER

    This is my own reply to you without the help of anybody not even MLQ3. You underestimated me, you think I can not stand where I stood.

    NARARAPAT LANG NA DI KA PINAPANSIN NI MLQ3 KASI DADA KA NG DADA WALA KA NAMANG ALTERNATIBONG BINIBIGAY, YOU BETTER SHUT YOUR BIG MOUTH UP. Pray tell us FROM WHOSE PAYROLL ARE YOU DERIVING YOUR BOUNTY BEING A POLITICAL MERCENARY OR AN ENVELOPMENTAL JOURNALIST. Dahil ako GRATIS, VOLUNTARY and even spending my own money to advance the cause of Noynoy.

    HUWAG KANG MAGTAGO SA ALYAS MO!!!

  12. 1. He is Intelligent ENOUGH
    2. He is Diligent and Hardworking ENOUGH
    3. He is VERY Sincere, Honest, Humble, and God-fearing
    4. He is VERY Clean and Untainted with Corruption
    5. He Advocated Accountability, Transparency & Good Governance
    6. He Knows How to Listen & Advocate of Participatory Democracy
    7. He has a VERY good Breeding
    8. He has No Political Debt
    9. He has No First Lady to Appeased with
    10. He is A WINNER

    Have you ever been on a blind date and then get asked later by your friends if your date was pretty?

    The above stuff you wrote about Noynoy at best is the equivalent of that safe answer “Hindi naman panget.” (which we all know means only one thing…).

    At worst it still begs the question of the bases for making the above assertions — specially the last two ones:

    “9. He has No First Lady to Appeased with”
    “10. He is A WINNER”

    Let me ask you what exactly about these two leads one to the conclusion that he will govern the Philippines well enough from 2010 to 2016?

  13. How about Noynoy supporters come up with some convincing evidence that Noynoy can:

    – kick serious rebel/insurgent/bandit arse in Mindanao;
    – kick serious diplomatic arse overseas when negotiating for Philippine economic/security interests;
    – kick serious cabinet secretary arse to make sure he shows them who’s boss CONSISTENTLY over his 6-year term.
    – kick serious Congressional arse to ensure that he is able to get stuff he wants to implement passed in the legislature;
    – kick serious arse when addressing various sectors in Pinoy society to ensure they do not bicker amongst one another.

    No amount of good breeding, good intentions, and good altar boy practices will provide any conclusive evidence that Noynoy can do even just one of the above.

  14. There are only four reasons why I will vote for Noynoy;

    First, I hate GMA and everyone in her evil court.

    Second, I love Tita Cory and Ninoy

    Third, No other candidates with a popularity of 13 points and above that better than Noynoy in terms of honesty, integrity and sincerity.

    Why only those with 13 points and above? Only they have the chance of winning. Why would I even entertain those who would just waste my vote? Those who can not win should not even consider themselves candidates because candidacy implies chance of winning.

    In order for one to convince me to reconsider my vote for Noynoy, he/she has to hurdle all the points I raised above.

    Would someone come to me and in my face tell me that there is nothing to be hated about GMA? or that Cory and Ninoy should not be loved? Or Erap and Villar is better than Noynoy in terms of honesty, integrity and sincerity?

    I don’t think anyone would….

    I will not vote for EVIL. E-erap VIL-Villar. No. Never.

    I will never vote for Erap. No. Never. He is a convicted plunderer and admits he has a lot of women in his life. Kung pamilya niya binaboy niya, paano pa tayo na di naman niya kilala? He is also a proven drunkard and gambler. Tataya ba tayo sa taong baka ang kaban ng bayan ay itaya niya sa kanyang bisyo at pagsusugal?

    I will never vote for Villar. No. Never. He has already spent Billions of pesos even before the campaign period has started. He claims he is a very good businessman. So how will he able to recoup his investment? I will not vote for Villar because he is an extremely dishonest person. You will find this out even by just listening to his infomercials. His commercials profess that he is NOT what in reality he REALLY is. How could you believe that he is not TRAPO? If he is not TRAPO, nobody else is. In his bid to fool the people, Villar is bombarding us with commercials that are false, irrational and out of context. How can we expect good governance from this guy?

    I will never vote for Villar. No. Never. Simply because of questions on his integrity and honesty. There are issues raised against him in the senate but he denied himself of a chance for vindication when he refused to answer the accusations in the halls of the senate. I think the best gauged or measure of one’s integrity should come from the candidates’ vice president themselves specially at a time when the tandem has not yet been formed. Mar Roxas has nothing but high praises for Noynoy to the point of sacrificing his own presidential ambition for him. Can we say the same thing about Loren and Villar? If there was anything that Loren sacrificed in her tandem with Villar was her own credibility and palabra de honor, as she shared bed with the same evil man he exposed some few months back.

    I will vote for Noynoy because I simply can not trust EVIL, or E-rap and VIL-villar.

  15. If you will ask me, can Noynoy fight insurgency? Of course, he could. Remember that there are still insurgents’ bullets embedded in different parts of his body. This only shows he could face anyone of those insurgents by the mere fact that facing them almost cost his life.

    Can Noynoy fight graft and corruption? Of course he could. He has the moral ascendancy. He can lead by example.

    Can he set moral standards for all public officials? Of course he could. His father gave up his life for our freedom and his mother devoted all her life in service to God and people. I don’t think Noynoy will tarnish the good names of his parents for any consideration.

    Can he encourage investment? Yes of course. A transparent governance attracts investments.

    Can he kick the ass of corrupt officials? Of course, he could. Tell me how an honest man can not ask a dishonest man to take a walk.

    THere are a lot of things that a President can achieve but all of these start with his honesty, integrity and sincerity.

  16. Can Noynoy set up a sound economic policy? Of course, he could. He is an honest economist?

    Can Noynoy reform our judicial system? Of course he could, being a victim of injustice himself.

    Can he formulate a foreign policy that is advantageous for the country. Of course, he could. His parents are considered heroes and inspiration the world over. There is absolutely no reason why he can not exact respect and favors from other governments.

    Can Noynoy change this country? Of course only he could. He has the most number of people supporting him.

    These are the fourth reasons why I will cast my vote for him.

  17. Hustisya,

    You’re just as clueless as that idiot Jonathan Francisco who calls himself an “Engineer.” …Engineer sa Miss Saigon – in other words, BUGAW, maybe. 😉

    Wishful thinking does not make it so, Hustisya. There is no proof to any of the things you say about Noynoy.

    Besides, why is it that whenever Noynoy is being scrutinized, so many of you idiots automatically blurt out “we hate Villar” as your predetermined response?

    What makes you jack-asses think that “Villar” is automatically the one and only other choice out there. Erap? He’s obviously out (and we all know he’s as stupid as all those Noynoy supporters combined).

    But why Villar? What makes so many of you brainless imbeciles think that anyone who attacks Noynoy is necessarily pro-Villar?

    It’s like if someone says “no to yellow”, you immediately think that person wants red. Well, there are other colors out there, idiots! Why red, not blue? Why not violet? Why not green? Why not pink? Why not black?

    Tanga talaga kayong mga pro-Noynoy! ha ha ha ha!

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    MLQ3, care to share your answer(s) to the question(s), Friend? 😉

    By the way, how’s your friend who talks to her dog in French and thinks that the Philippines is the “armpit of the World” as you yourself said back in 1997? 😉

  18. To benignO:

    I am an OPTIMIST. I do not see half-empty glass of water but I see HALF-FULL glass of water. About my reasons for supporting Noynoy, well, Mr. Nick Macafuck asked me what the hell are my reasons for doing so. I just answered him and didn’t expect for another why because that will seem to become endless.

    As to your question on how those ten reasons I gave, can make one conclude that those qualities will make a good president out of Noynoy. As I said those are my reasons and for that I am very optimistic that HE IS, HE CAN and HE WILL BE unless the spirit of Mr. Nick MacYavelly will possess him. NO ONE CAN CONCLUDE THAT SOMEONE IS A HEINOUS CRIMINAL UNLESS HE DOES THE HEINOUS CRIME. benignO be OPTIMISTIC!!! There’s nothing wrong with it and it is not IDIOTIC as the Idiot himself Nick MacYavelly claims to be.

    To Nick MacfuckYavelly:

    I am not as IDIOT as you are. I burned eyebrows for 5 years of Civil Engineering at Silliman University, Passed the Board Exams sans formal Review, was granted Licence by the PRC to practice my Profession, an Alumnus of Negros Oriental State University Graduate School, an Alumnus of Asian Institute of Management – Development Management Center. And you called me Bugaw? I am not clueless, I have an ANALYTICAL MIND. If you disagree with my preference, you can disagree to the top of your lungs until smoke comes running out of your ears, of which I couldn’t care less.

    You COWARD, do you think your rhetorics makes you more intelligent than I am? You are a SICK man, you are even afraid to give your real identity? How much more your CREDENTIALS?

    You deserve to be IGNORED by anybody who is in his right mind.

    Is that all you can say about my reply to you? Name Calling?

    You are persistent in asking MLQ3 to answer you. Now answer this: FROM WHOSE PAYROLL ARE YOU DERIVING YOUR BOUNTY AS POLITICAL MERCENARY OR AN ENVELOPMENTAL JOURNALIST?

  19. Hardly any the above are serious requirements for the presidency, nor should they be serious expectations. It betrays a serious imcomprehension of how either policy, diplomacy, or executive-legislative relations are conducted.

  20. nick, you don’t have much good faith from what i can see, and besides that you should realize you’re acting extremely creepy. so enjoy yourself and have a nice life. thanks for visiting and promoting your blog.

  21. Jonathan Francisco,

    Easy ka lang, partner. Pusomo, puso mo! 😉

    Here goes:

    You don’t act like an Engineer, despite all your declarations and claims of being one, and that’s what matters. The papers you claim to hold become irrelevant if what you do is not consistent with the credentials you hold require of you.

    As an engineer, you are supposed to be analytical and logical. But your choice for President is not based on either. It’s based on emotionalism and sentiment. It’s based purely on Noynoy’s family name and who his parents were!

    You know, if you owned a construction company and needed to hire the manager of a team of engineers, what would your criteria be for hiring them? Would you base it on their family names? Ah, this one’s the son of my classmate in engineering, I’ll choose him! Or are you going to look first at the abilities and experience of different applicants, screen them, shortlist them based on who are the best in the group in terms of abilities and experience, and then choose the remaining best one out of that group of best candidates?

    See, Jojo, the process is simple: You’re supposed to check for capabilities and competence, and that’s why you probably will let them go through a test, interview them to know if they really know their stuff, and do background checks to make sure they really did what they say they did in the past.

    Now, your choice of Noynoy, unfortunately does not parallel the choice of a candidate for head of engineering… The way you choose Noynoy parallels how you would choose a MASCOT.

    A mascot is just a character to rally around. An animal or imaginary creature that supposedly embodies the imagined characteristics of the group. That’s what Noynoy is. A MASCOT.

    You didn’t choose Noynoy because of his skills, abilities, ability to lead and inspire, because he is unskilled, he has subpar abilities, he cannot lead, and he is totally uninspiring.

    In short, Noynoy does not possess the required REAL characteristics in order to fulfill the requirements of the job.

    However, you chose Noynoy because his family name is enough to nostalgically remind you of his parents. Whether he has the Cory-Ninoy magic or not is irrelevant to you because what’s important to you is that you IMAGINE THAT HE HAS or at least you are reminded of his parents’ magic because he (Noynoy) has his parents’ family name and is their son.

    Since it’s all about imagined good points and symbolism, instead of ACTUAL, TANGIBLE POSITIVE CHARACTERISMS, it’s clear that:

    NOYNOY is just a MASCOT.

    You therefore are hiring a MASCOT to do the job of a person responsible for delivering real results to close to 90 million people.

    That’s a disconnect, Engineer Jonathan Francisco. And that’s why you’re not acting like a real engineer should.

    *

    MLQ3, my Friend, you’re the one who doesn’t have much good faith from what EVERYONE can see. You’re not answering the questions that have been asked of you. And others have asked you the same questions.

    So please answer them, MLQ3. 😉

  22. http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquireropinion/letterstotheeditor/view/20091127-238642/Battle-between-Good-and-Evil
    The letter is written in mlq3’s writing style. obvious naman eh. it’s masturbatory. self-praise, kumbaga. mlq3 was torn to shreds on his own blog kaya na-pwersa syang magsulat ng self-praise letter-to-the editor tapos gagamit siya ng pangalan ng iba. just look at this guy descending to the depths of moral deceit. he even blows his own horn on his blog. siya mismo ang nagpost ng kanyang sariling jakoletter dito tapos ipapalabas niya na may ibang taong nagsend nun sa inquirer.

  23. Manolo,

    By the way, which blog are you talking about? This one?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Machiavelli

    That’s not a blog, Manolo, that’s an article about me. 😉

    Ano bang pinagsasabi mo dyan, ha? 😉 Sabi mo “thanks for visiting and promoting your blog”, eh aling blog ang pinag-uusapan mo, Manolo?

    Hey, do you remember that incident when you told me and several other people about your friend who speaks French to her dog – the one who calls the Philippines “the armpit of the world”, back in 1997? Why were you with a cane back then?

    Ano, Manolo, ang dami nang mga tanong sa yo eh, di mo naman sinasagot.

  24. Ok, Mr. Nick or who ever you are:

    You don’t have to lecture me on the hiring processes because I myself am a Manager of both Business Enterprise and Social Enterprise. In Business Enterprises, the bottom line is PROFIT while in Social Enterprises, SERVICES and BENEFITS.

    The Government of the Republic of the Philippines is ONE BIG SOCIAL ENTERPRISE, therefore the President must be both MANAGER and LEADER.

    The Manager shall dictate/direct, plan, control and organize anything within the scope of his mandated power and see to it that the desired results are achieved at the least cost, he is responsible for both the products’ quality control and his subordinates’ well-being, BUT he is NOT ACCOUNTABLE to them. He is only accountable to the owner/owners of the Business Enterprise.

    The Leader on the other hand, shall INITIATE, INOVATE, COORDINATE, FACILITATE, MOTIVATE AND INSPIRE his followers for a collective efforts to achieve the desired tangible and intangible results for whatever the cost. He is both RESPONSIBLE and ACCOUNTABLE to his followers in particular and to the whole constituency in general.

    Now, with regards to my choice of Noynoy. I did not use the conventional hiring process in selecting candidates, not even emotional nor genealogical considerations BUT my own personal Intuition taking into consideration his educational qualification, legislative experience, personal values and INNATE LEADERSHIP CHARACTER that can be equated to CHARISMA.

    That is where my LOGICAL and ANALYTICAL MIND comes in.

    Now my questions, Mr. Nick:

    1. Do you personally know Noynoy Aquino or do you any personal bias and prejudice against him?
    2. Have you personally interviewed Noynoy Aquino or are you just basing your judgment on what you saw on TV?
    3. Have you conducted the same selection process you tried to lecture on me to a set of Presidential Aspirants?
    4. If you already did, who among them can come close to your standards and be your BET, and, what is the basis of your naming Noynoy Aquino a MASCOT?
    5. Finally, from whose payroll are you deriving your bounty as political mercenary to destroy Noynoy Aquino’s reputation?

    Answer these questions so I can also subject your choice BET to a careful scrutiny WITH MY OWN CRITERIA. I promise to be OBJECTIVE! And then I will rest my case!

    A REAL ENGINEER MR. NICK, DOES NOT CONFINE HIMSELF INSIDE A BOX. GETS MO?

  25. @mlq3 on Sat, 28th Nov 2009 10:33 pm

    mlq3,

    ah, alliances. i get ur point now. thanks.

    although, i gotta admit, the “alliance” with gollum wasnt really an alliance. gollum was useful to frodo and sam, they USED him, for a good end of course.

    the reason it worked is not coz they had hope, but coz gollum was insane and not very powerful on his own…

    i’m not sure if some politicians who want to join the alliance are as insane and weak as gollum…

  26. BUT my own personal Intuition taking into consideration his educational qualification, legislative experience, personal values and INNATE LEADERSHIP CHARACTER that can be equated to CHARISMA.
    That is where my LOGICAL and ANALYTICAL MIND comes in.

    How in the world does INTUITION necessarily stem from a LOGICAL and ANALYTICAL MIND?

    Do you even know right from left?

    Also, check out my additional thoughts on what you said (mine’s in bold):

    You are asking what the hell is my reason for supporting Noynoy? Well I don’t swear by hell, but simply put, these are my reasons: (other than I’ll still get paid from Dec to May)
    1. He is Intelligent ENOUGH to be the oligarchs’ puppet
    2. He is Diligent and Hardworking ENOUGH to not have accomplished much after so long in public office
    3. He is VERY Sincere, Honest, Humble, and God-fearing because Kris told him to act like it
    4. He is VERY Clean and Untainted with Corruption but not in the eyes of Hacienda Luisita farmers
    5. He Advocated Accountability, Transparency & Good Governance like every other senator, also with poor results
    6. He Knows How to Listen & Advocate of Participatory Democracy so he has no clue what to do
    7. He has a VERY good Breeding just like Bong Bong Marcos
    8. He has No Political Debt before Mommy died, but now he owes a lot to ABS CBN
    9. He has No First Lady to Appeased with though that may change just to get media exposure
    10. He is A WINNER like Erap was when he was elected president

  27. To Nick MacYavelley;

    I notice that you are brain dead and obviously an AH.( or agaw-hinagap o agaw pansin na rin ) But anyway, I will respond to you just thinking that maybe, just maybe…your stinking minute brain could still understand what good governance, reasons and those kind of things would probably mean.

    First; ang mga maka-noynoy at hindi mga tanga. MARAMI lang talaga kami. Go ask Pulse Asia and SWS so that at least your shrinking cerebrum would have a good grasp of what I am thinking about.

    Second; ang mga maka-noynoy ay hindi mga tanga. Sadya lang napakabobo ng mga taong katulad mo kaya nahihirapan kang maintindihan. Tinagalog ko na kasi alam kong bobo ka talaga.

    Third; ang mga maka-noynoy ay hindi mga tanga. Sadya lang napakatalino namin kung kayat hindi ordinaryong paninindigan ang aming pinaglalaban. Ikaw ay isang bobong palaka na nasa ilalim ng balon kaya akala mo ang langit ay kasing laki lang ng bunganga ng balon.

    I know it is extremely difficult to deal with a mental case like Nick M but sadly admitted, he is as important as any dick tom and harry in this country and so explaining to him the issues may be worth my little time, just wasted or otherwise..

    Mr. Nick, I am not in quarrelsome mode, so please don’t try me. If you have something to refute about my arguments, be a gentleman and say what it was, and why I was wrong.THis is just not the site to put your pants down because you have very little between your legs. In short, huwag mo akong bastusin para di rin kita bastusin. Understand me?

    I mentioned about Erap and Villar as bad alternatives for Noynoy, because for me ALL the other candidates are already irrelevant as they don’t stand a chance to win. I have clearly said that this election will just be between NOYNOY, representing GOOD, and the tag team of EVIL represented by E-Eral and Vil-Villar. Now if you are telling me that there are colors in the political horizon like violet, green, etc. I am saying to you right now that you just missed my point and your argument is utterly wayward.

    Unahin mo muna kasi ang intensiyong maliwanagan sa matinong debate kaysa ang mang-insulto. Malakas lang kasi loob mo dahil hindi ka na kinakailangan pang insultuhin. Obvious naman.

  28. Chong, if Noynoy becomes president and for some reason you’re in a rally protesting something, I hope you get a taste of what the Hacienda Luisita farmers went through on November 16, 2004.

    Pro-Noynoy ka pa kaya kung tadtad ka na ng bala?

  29. Pero tama ka pare.

    Erap and Villar are orange bad guys, just like Joey De Venecia III.

    They were all in orange sa pag-file nila ng COC, parang Bilibid tuloy sa Comelec. 😉

    So ang malaking tanong is bakit ka natatakot ihambing si Noynoy kay Gibo na you always focus on obvious dummies like Erap and Villar?

  30. To Engr. Jojo And Nick MacYavelley;

    If you are choosing a candidate like selecting an employee, the more that we should vote for Noynoy.

    Again, I am limiting my choices to Noynoy, Erap and Villar because only these candidates have a good chance of winning. Why waste our time with the other candidates who could not even win as chairman in their respective barangays? Ni wala ngang makuhang vice president yung iba, botante pa kaya?

    NOw, if we chose an employee, first of all, we subject them for physical examination. Mas bata namang di hamak si Noynoy kaysa kina Erap at Villar, di ba? Sina Erap at Villar, bala mad matagal pa sa hospital ang mga ito kaysa sa Malacanang?

    Secondly; we ask for their NBI and Police Clearance. Si Erap ba makakakuha ng clearance samantalang na-convict siya for plunder? Si Villar ba na ayaw sumagot sa mga paratang sa kanya sa senado ay makakakuha ng clearance? Again, si Noynoy lang ang may malinis na record sa kanilang tatlo.

    Thirdly; we also ask for their Family Background. Sus ginoo, mananalo ba ang dalawang kamoteng kahoy ke Noynoy eh parehong bayani ang magulang ni Noynoy.

    Fourth; may references. Seguro ay wala nang mas gaganda pang tanungin kundi ang mga vice president nila. And if we are going to conduct an interview with their respective vice presidents ito ang tiyak na sasabihin nila;

    i) Mar on Noynoy : OK yang si Noynoy. In fact, I sacrificed my own presidential ambition for him.

    ii) Loren on Villar : OK din naman itong si Villar pero kung meron man akong isinakripisyo, ito ay ang aking paninindigan, palabra de honor at kredibilidad kasi ka-partner ko ay siya rin yung tinawag kong masamang tao, pinaimbistigahan at pinapalitang senate president.

    iii) Binay on Erap : OK din namang itong si Erap at kung meron mang akong isinakripisyo, ito ay ang political career ko kasi wala na akong kinabukasan ngayon.

    In short, their respective presidents mirrors the real character of the candidates.

    Maliwanag pa sa sikat ng araw na if I were the boss of a company, si Noynoy na ang pipiliin ko at wala nang iba.

  31. Re; Hacienda Luisita. Yes, I will still vote for Noynoy in spite of the massacres in Hacienda Luisa because I know that with 1% share, he has absolutely no control over it nor has a hand in managing the same. Mas mataas pa nga ang share ng magsasaka na 33% di ba?

    Re; why not compare Nonoy with Gibo? Gibo is stained with his attachment to Danding and the Marcoses. Furthermore, I believe he has no chance of winning. This is the reason why I am limiting my choices to Noynoy, Erap and Villar.

  32. Hindi ako si Nick.

    HIndi mo sinagot ang tanong ko.

    Bakit ka natatakot ihambing si Noynoy kay Gibo?

    Takot ka ba ilitaw ba mga kakulangan ni Noynoy?

  33. Na-late comment ko.

    Oo Gibo is related to Danding. How does Danding affect Gibo specifically?

    Gibo is attached to the Marcoses? How exactly?

    Gibo has no chance? Si Madame Auring ka ba pare?

  34. Re; Hacienda Luisita. Yes, I will still vote for Noynoy in spite of the massacres in Hacienda Luisa because I know that with 1% share, he has absolutely no control over it nor has a hand in managing the same. Mas mataas pa nga ang share ng magsasaka na 33% di ba?

    So parang if your contribution to global warming is tiny, you won’t do your part to alleviate it na lang kasi maliit lang part mo ganun ba? Ganun ba ka-unggoy mag-isip si Noynoy? Kesyo “Ay wala ako magagawa naman diyan bahala kayo sa buhay niyo basta tuloy ang laban” ganun ba yon?

    Galing ng hero nyo ah.

    Sige nga.

    Explain.

  35. When choosing a President, it is also not right that primodial consideration will be on experience. Otherwise, the only one with experience is Erap who became President for 2 1/2 years. It is also not right that it will be focused on projects delivered because Noynoy, who was subjected to political persecution most of his political life, was denied of his pork barrel for several years.

    Ang pinakamahalagang konsiderasyon ay ang PUSO at kalinisan ng tao. Nakulong ang tatay ni Noynoy for 9 years. Solitary confinement. And eventually, inialay ang buhay para sa ating lahat.

    Sa palagay ba ninyo sisirain ni Noynoy ang pangalang itinayo sapamamagitan ng sakripisyo at pag-aalay ng buhay ng kanyang ama?

    Ang nanay ni Nonoy ang nanguna sa pakikibaka para ibalik ang demokrasya para sa ating bayan, hinangaan at naging inspirasyon hindi lamang sa atin kundi sa buong mundo. Sa palagay ninyo dadayangin ni Noynoy ang imahe at bantayog na itinayo ng kanyang ina?

    Huwag nating sabihin na hindi naman si Noynoy si Cory at Ninoy. Bagamat hindi nga si Cory o Ninoy si Noynoy, ang batang si Noynoy ay kasama nina Cory at Ninoy sa hirap at hinagpis, maging sa pakikibaka na isinulong ng kanyang ama at ina kung kayat kabahagi rin siya sa kabayanihan ng mga ito.

    How do you think will a child feel when his father was imprisoned for several years. Seguro sa panahong lumuluha si Ninoy, lumuluha rin ang batang si Noynoy. What do you think is in a child’s mind learning that his father has lead himself to martyrdom? Natitiyak ko na ang balang kumitil sa buhay ng kanyang ama ay higit na nadarama ng anak na nauunawaan kung gaano kamahal ns kanyang ama ang bayan. Gayon din sa kabayanihan ni Cory, tiyak nakasama di Noynoy. 9 na coup nilabanan ni Cory, bahagi ng kanyang kabayanihan. dapat nating malaman na isa sa mga coup na iyon ay muntik nang kumitil sa buhay ni Noynoy at katunayan ay nasa katawan pa niya ang ilang bala.

    Sometimes when we choose a candidate, we ignore the most important things : Honesty, Integrity and Sincerity. Ang mga ito kasi ay di nakakagawa ng tulay, kalsada, buildings at mga paaralan. Ang dapat nating malaman, marami ang nawawala sa ating mga tulay, kalsada, etc. dahilan sa walang honesty, integrity and sincerity ang ating mga nanunungkulan.

  36. Re; Gibo. You don’t need the “mastery” of Madam Auring to know that with 2% rating and your opponent has 44%, you have no chance at all to win. Even in basketball, it would be statistically impossible for a team to catch up when the score is 2-44, barely two quarters to go. More so, may ka-team mate kayo na ang pangalan any GMA who is tall in graft in corruption but short in public support.

    Re; Global warning. It is a fallacy to compare it with the situation in Hacienda Luisita. When you are the President, you have 100% authority to deal with global warming. Si Noynoy 1% lang ang authority sa hacienda Luisita.

    Matanong naman kita, why not blame Hacienda Luisita incident to the Chairman of the Board, President or Manager of the company. Why Noynoy? Para mapalapit pa, why not blame it on Kris, Viel or Pinky or Peping Cojuangco. The real intention is obvious. Candidate kasi si Noynoy and he is leading by a mile kaya pilit na iniuugnay sa kanya ang Hacienda Luisita,

  37. Huwag nating sabihin na hindi naman si Noynoy si Cory at Ninoy. Bagamat hindi nga si Cory o Ninoy si Noynoy, ang batang si Noynoy ay kasama nina Cory at Ninoy sa hirap at hinagpis, maging sa pakikibaka na isinulong ng kanyang ama at ina kung kayat kabahagi rin siya sa kabayanihan ng mga ito.

    Eh di vote for Kris for president. Ganu’n pala basehan eh.

    How do you think will a child feel when his father was imprisoned for several years. Seguro sa panahong lumuluha si Ninoy, lumuluha rin ang batang si Noynoy. What do you think is in a child’s mind learning that his father has lead himself to martyrdom?

    Then make Kris our President. She was there. Ninoy was her martyred dad too. Vote for Kris, not the ignoramus. Same lame reasons for choosing.

    Sometimes when we choose a candidate, we ignore the most important things : Honesty, Integrity and Sincerity.

    Hindi naman ah. Gibo has those. Gordon has those. Walang monopolyo si Noynoy niyan.

    Re; Gibo. You don’t need the “mastery” of Madam Auring to know that with 2% rating and your opponent has 44%, you have no chance at all to win.

    Then if that’s a certainty, do you promise to give all of your personal and family possessions to the Philippine National Red Cross if Noynoy loses to gibo or anyone else in 2010? Imposible ka naman matalo eh. Let’s make your conviction your pledge pare.

    Re; Global warning. It is a fallacy to compare it with the situation in Hacienda Luisita. When you are the President, you have 100% authority to deal with global warming. Si Noynoy 1% lang ang authority sa hacienda Luisita.

    Hindi ito fallacy. Hindi ito tungkol sa control. Tungkol ito sa prinsipyo. Kung dugo ng kawawang magsasaka ang katapat ng pag-aari ng kahit gaano kalaking nahagi ng Hacienda Luisita, edi kung may integridad yang mga Aquino bibitawan nila LAHAT ng shares nila ng walang aasahang kapalit. Tama na excuses mo chong.

    why not blame Hacienda Luisita incident to the Chairman of the Board, President or Manager of the company. Why Noynoy?

    Actually, tama, go after those other parties who have denied Hacienda Luisita farmers their due. Lahat ng accountable habulin. Kaya kasama pa rin si Noynoy.

    So ayan malinaw usapan natin ha Hustisya. Because you’re so very sure na Noynoy will beat everyone inclusing Gibo, you will bet everything you own para sa ipakikinabang ng rescue & relief efforts ng Philippine National Red Cross kung may tumalo kay Noynoy kahit sino pa yun. Tatandaan mo ‘to ha.

    O, sige pa. Ano pa mga excuse mo pare?

  38. I think you are the one who is impossible, mare. Before, you are pushing Gibo who has no chance of winning, now you are pushing Kris who is not even a candidate. Tapos, gusto mo pang i-garnish ng red cross ang mga properties ko. Ano ba yun?

    Gusto ko lang linawin sa yo, mare, na nagdedebate tayo at di nagmamajong.

    Pero kung gusto mo pustahan kung sino ang mananalo between Noynoy and Gibo, shoot sana ako diyan. Pero sira ulo lang seguro ang makikipagpustahan ng walang kalaban. Dapat sabihin mo kung laban ka at ano ang taya mo at sino ang manok mo. Di ba mas tama yun, chang?

  39. RE; Hacienda Luisita and global warming. Yun ang pagkakamali mo, mare. Yun ang fallacy. Kasi, magkaiba ang situation at circumstances. Ang ibig mong sabihin pag nawala ang Hacienda Luisita, mawawala rin ang global warming?

    Parang mali o hinihilo mo lang ako, chang.

  40. E di wala palang timbang ang mga paninidigan mo.

    You can’t put your money where your mouth is KAHIT “SIGURADO” KA.

    Halata namang nililinlang mo kami.

  41. Ang ibig mong sabihin pag nawala ang Hacienda Luisita, mawawala rin ang global warming?

    Basahin mo ulit, o talagang kinukulang ka yata sa iodized salt?

    PRINSIPYO. Wala si NOynoy nito.

    Kung dugo ng kawawang magsasaka ang katapat ng pag-aari ng kahit gaano kalaking bahagi ng Hacienda Luisita, edi kung may integridad yang mga Aquino bibitawan nila LAHAT ng shares nila ng walang aasahang kapalit.

    Kaso wala.

    Kung hindi mo yun naitindihan, baka may utak ka ng tilapia.

  42. Babae ka pala. Di ko alam. Sori sa pagtawag sa ‘yo ng pare.
    O ayan, just to get that out of the way.

    Still, malinaw mga sinabi ko so if you act like you don’t understand them niloloko mo lang kaming lahat.

  43. Gibo has honesty, integrity and sincerity?

    Let us look into this. Gibo is the Defense Secretary for a while and in most part of the reign of the Ampatuans. Did he lift a finger to neutralize their private armies? No. Did he lift a finger to ensure that ARMM and Maguindanao are no voting factories of the administration? Again the answer is no. And now, after this whole massacre issue has already exploded, he has the nerve to go to Maguindanao for a quick fix of this whole mess and to ensure that the voting factories in those places will remain, pinalitan lang ng pangalan from Ampatuan Vote Factories to Mangadadatu Vote Factories.

    Gibo, 2% in pulse asia survey just can not afford to lose the the votes factories in Maguindanao and ARMM.

    Can we call this honesty, integrity and sincerity?

    Giboy can not even handle a single disaster of ONDOY, how much more all the disasters for the next 6 years and those man made disasters he let pass even when he can at least expressed objection to? In short, walang nilabanang katiwalian si Gibo.

    Can we call this honesty, integrity and sincerity?

  44. Come, on. Mare, you can review this exchanges. Kung gusto mo ng pustahan, tumaya ka rin. Alangan namang ako lang ang may taya.Ikaw wala. Pustahan ba yun?

    Pikon ka na ba? Kasi hihinto na ako kung pikon ka na, mahirap kadebate ang pikon.

    Re; Hacienda Luisita. 1% lang ang share ni Noynoy, how can he exercise authority over it? You are knocking my head. And hoew does this issue connect to global warning? OK, utak tilapia ako at ikaw matalino. Can you please, mareng genius, explain how Hacienda Luisita would connect to Global Warning?

    Parang mental case ka na rin.

  45. Why, did SENATOR Noynoy Aquino lift a finger to fix the same problems? No. Did he even come close to developing solutions of ANYTHING related to the ARMM? No. Is the Noynoy camp tremedously insecure of its lack of popularity down south? Sigurado. You can call it Vote Factory all you want kasi walang hatak si Noynoy doon. Yan lang pala ibabato niyo, insecurity ng partido niyo. Walang pinagkaiba sa Vote Factory niyo sa Tarlac. Ganun naman tawag niyo lagi kapag hindi sa inyo – Vote Factory.

    Mabuti you mentioned Ondoy kasi ang naialay ni Gibo sa delubyong yun eh ang overall coordination ng gov’t resources. Malaki yun. Eh si NOynoy? Ayun ginamit yung mga nakolektang mamiso sa taumbayan. Buti pa si Kris malaki hatak nung generating funds through ABSCBN Sagip kapamilya. Si Noynoy, walaaaa. Nandoon ka-meeting si Erap. Your sincere honest integrity bullshit is out da window dahil Noynoy is in cahoots with Erap!

    Si Noynoy, walang nagawa, walang kayang gawin, walang alam gawin, tapos nag-iimbento pa mga delusional supporters na meron siyang sincerity, honesty, integrity, at kung anu ano pang mga hindi naman mapatunayan.

    Noon pa ngang habang nagtratrabaho si Gibo at Gordon during kasagsagan ni Pepeng, si Noynoy ka-party si Raymond Gutierrez and friends, once again walang pakinabang, walang naitulong na IMMEDIATE sa kanyang electorate.

    Ang galing ninyong maglinlang.
    I have relatives swept away by Pepeng so don’t give me that bullshit.

  46. Hindi naging Defense Secretary si Noynoy, si Gibo lang, mare. At yung mga tauhan ni Gibo sa AFP, ginawang muchacho at private armies ni Ampatuan, di nakapiyok si Gibo.

    Huwag mong iliko ang issue, mare. Isang disaster pa lang na Ondoy di nakaya ni Gibo. Siya ang incharge sa disaster preparedness chuvanes, hindi si Noynoy. Kung iyong isang disaster lang di nakaya ni Gibo, paano pa lahat nang disaster for the next year?

    The truth is, si Gibo mismo disaster ang candidacy, 2% lang sa pulse asia kahit ginamit na ang buong makinarya ng gobyerno. Ito ewan ko paano niya handle….

    Huwag mong palabuin ang issue mare, 47% si Noynoy sa Mindanao per pulse asia. Si Gibo, 1% bwahahaha! Siya ang nangangailangan ng vote factories.

    Anong party ang pinagsasabi mo. Stalker ka ba ni Noynoy? The truth is, namudmud si Noy and Mar ng relief at ginawa pa ngang relief distribution center and isang malaking warehouse sa Cubao. Si Gibo, sumakay sa relief distribution ng gobyerno as if pera niya ang resources ng gobyerno.

    Walang nagawa si Noynoy. Walang alam gawin. Kaya pala tinatanong kita kung anong katiwalian ang tinutulan ni Gibo wala kang isinagot kundi tunganga.

    May bagong slogan si Gibo;

    GIBO WALANG KIBO
    ( Sa katiwalian ! )
    GIBO WALANG KIBO
    ( Sa kaguluhan )
    GIBO WALANG KIBO
    ( Kay Ampatuan ! )
    GIBO WALANG KIBO
    ( Kay ONDOY !! )
    GIBO WALANG KIBO
    ( Sa abuso ni Gloria )
    GIBO WALANG KIBO

    Kung sa bagay, matatapos ang eleksyon tiyak wala pa ring kibo dahil kulelat. Talo is understatement. KULELAT is more like it.

    Tira na kayo nang tira ng Hacienda Luisaita eh yung mga nagrally sa harap ng bahay ni Noynoy puro me dalang pamaypay ni GIBO lahat nang channel nahuli yun sa camera. Mahilig pala sa underhand tactics si GIBO, WALANG KIBO!

  47. One more thing that makes Gibo’s candidacy mediocre is the fact that he is probably the Presidential candidate na binasted ng the most number of vice presidential probables. List as follows;

    1.) PUNO, binasted si Gibo walang kibo.
    2.) LOREN, binasted si Gibo walang kibo
    3.) Escudero, binasted si Gibo walang kibo
    4.) Gwen Garcia, binasted si Gibo walang kibo
    5.) Vilma santos, binasted si Gibo walang kibo

    Bwaha-ha-ha. Ang nakuha pa niya yung game show king, Edu Mansano. Balita ko dinaan sa roleta, kaso naswertehan ni Gibo, walang kibo kaya hayun, nakabili ng vice.

    GIBO, basted walang kibo!

    Kung mga vice presidentiable nga walang tiwala sa kanya, botante pa kaya?

  48. aba masyado nang mainit ang diskusyon dito.

    anyway, asan na nga ba ang mga detalyadong plano ni noynoy para sa bayan? siguro naman kahit kayong mga noynoy supporters kahit paano maiintindihan niyo naman na ang mga pahayag tulad ng “buburahin ko ang katiwalian sa pamahalaan” ay pangako lamang, di ba? at ang mga pangako ay madaling isawalang bahala. ngayon sa tingin niyo hindi ba mas makakabuti kung may malinaw na plano kung paano niya ito gagawin? siguro naman kung ang kandidato makakapaglabas ng detalyadong plano mas malamang sa hindi sisiguraduhin niyang tuparin ang kanyang pangako.

    tanggapin niyo na kasi na malaking tulong talaga ang plataporma (yung tunay ah hindi yung puro motherhood statement lang) dahil diyan pa lang makikita na natin kung pinagisipan man lang ba niya kung ano nga ba ang gagawin niya. masyado naman kayong madaling utuin kung ok na sa inyo ang mga pangako.

    sa totoo lang wala naman kahit sino sa atin ang makapagsasabi kung magiging matin ba o hindi ang isang politiko oras na siya’y mahalal. ang sa akin lang basta politiko mas duda ako na oras na nasa kanya na ang kapangyarihan madedemonyo na rin iyan. kaya ang sa akin lang mas lamang pa rin ang politikong may malinaw na plano. hindi ito lesser evil ah isyu lang ito ng kung sino ba talaga ang preparado.

    malinaw naman kasi na sa ngayon hindi pa talaga preparado si noynoy. tanungin niyo kaya siya kung ano ba ang mga konkretong hakbang na gagawin niya para “alisin ang tiwali.” subukan niyo lang.

    sa totoo lang… kayong mga noynoy supporter na rin ang nagpapasama sa imahe ni noynoy eh. sana makita niyo na baka naman mas mabuti pa eh tulungan niyo na lang ang senador na maihayag sa mamamayan kung ano nga ba ang mga plano niya.

    sa ngayon kasi sa mga sinasabi niyo na pagpili base sa intuition at kung ano ano pang guni-guni diyan lumalabas na ang isinusulong niya ay traditional politics. alam niyo ba yun? traditional politics kung saan ang mga kandidato namamayagpag sa pamamagitan ng patuloy na pagpapabobo sa mga botante. hindi naman siguro ganoon si noynoy di ba pero sa mga hirit ninyong mga pro-noynoy parang nagiging ganoon ang dating.

    isa pa bakit ba tuwing babanatan si noynoy ang hinala niyo kaagad nakapanig sa ibang kandidato ang bumabanat. sa akin lang hinahamon ko kayo sumilip kayo sa blog ko at maghanap kayo doon ng anumang pahayag ng pagsuporta kanino man. pero para hindi na rin kayo mapagod sasabihin ko na na wala kahit isa. ordinaryong botante lang ako na naghahanap ng linaw sa mga plano ng mga kandidato kasama na doon si noynoy.

    ang mahirap kasi at ito totohanan na to… halatado naman kasi kung bayad ang supporter eh. ano ang mga senyales. una masyadong palaban kahit wala sa lugar ang hirit, pangalawa napakatyagang dumepensa (marami ako kilalang tunay na noynoy supporter kaya alam ko hindi ganyan ang mga tunay na supporter), pangatlo may mga website iyan na bagong bukas na walang ibang laman kundi pulos papuri sa kandidato (ulitin ko marami akong kilalang tunay na pro-noynoy na may mga blog din pero hindi ganyan ang estilo).

    kung ako si noynoy tatanggalin ko ang nag-ma-manage ng online capaign ko. amateur kasi. hindi ba magawang gawing disimulado ang mga tirada at ang masama pa habang humihirit lalong nasisira ang imahe ni noynoy.

    magbasa basa muna kayo ng mga libro tungkol sa pag-manage ng communication agenda kasi sa ngayon talaga masyadong halata. kung yun ngang isang nagpaka-high profile na supporter ni noynoy nung una pa man halatang halatang may kaplit ang pagsuporta niya kayo pa. di ba ngayon senatorial candidate na siya?

    konting pino lang mga maka-noynoy at baka sakali mas makatulong pa kayo sa kandidato niyo.

  49. kung available lang sana lahat ng mga plataporma eh di ang pinagtatalunan na sana natin ay ang mga issue at kung ano ang pinakamahusay na solusyon.

    sana yung mga nagsasabi na hindi mahalaga ang plataporma ay manahimik na lamang. kung mahal niyo talaga ang pilipinas tutulong pa kayo para maiangat ang antas ng pagdedebate ng mga botante.

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