Intervention for the Prosecution: Why the BJE-MOA is an impeachable offense

Well, it’s in the news: please see MILF MOA added to impeach raps vs Arroyo: Intervention filed at House Earlier today and Groups want MOA-AD in Arroyo impeach raps and Bloggers comprise secod batch of complainants in new GMA raps. There’s also Impeachment and the MOA-AD in Filipino Voices. Also, Arroyo foes try for ‘online revolution’ (visit Oust the Imp).

The official (legislator’s) response came pretty fast for some: Intervention a new complaint -solon:

Representative Matias Defensor, chairman of the committee on justice that will hear the complaint, announced that deliberations to determine form and in substance would begin on November 18.

“Since the MOA-AD is a new issue, it should be treated as a new complaint against the President,” Defensor said in a phone interview when asked about the fate of the petition.

“We cannot accept it as an additional charge to the original complaint, otherwise, anybody can just file any motion and add a new charge to the complaint,” he added.

However, Defensor said the motion filed would have no effect on the original complaint.

A line echoed in this snipped from the Philippine Star report linked to above:

But the latest impeachment complaint didn’t sit well among members of the 28-man House minority bloc, particularly Bayan Muna Reps. Satur Ocampo and Teddy Casino, who both endorsed the De Venecia impeachment complaint.

“We who endorsed the first complaint respect the right of the proponents to include the MOA-AD, but we refrain from endorsing it lest it prejudices the complaint we endorsed,” said Ocampo, former spokesman of the communist wing National Democratic Front.

“This is because any addition or amendment to the original complaint will most likely be treated by the (House) justice committee as a separate complaint, as was done in prior cases,” he pointed out.

In the past I’ve written in my column about my belief that the BJE-MOA should have been included in the impeachment complaint. Together with some bloggers and other individuals, we decided to do something about it.

So this is what we filed this morning:

Final Complaint in Intervention MOA

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Please read this document. We have signed it. We stand by it. We submitted it, today, to the Secretary-General of the House of Representatives so that it may fortify the impeachment case against the President of the Philippines. I cannot express the reasons why we had to do this, better than The Marocharim Experiment did, in his blog entry for today:

Clenched fists mean a lot of things, not the least of which is fighting.  The clenched fist is a symbol of resistance.  To clench your fist means to stand up for what’s right because you believe in it, not because you feel like it…

…I think that when you blog about political issues and social issues, you cannot treat citizenship, political participation, and social obligation from your blogging.  When we say something or write about something, we should be able to act on it when the situation calls for it.  Our words shouldn’t be empty; we should be able to stand by our principles.  It’s not a matter of winning or losing, revolution or insurrection, cost or benefit…

…I was just doing what any free-thinking Filipino will do.  I was just doing things out of principle.  I signed that document because of my convictions, not for money, not for ambition.  I’m just a twenty-something who makes an honest living.

I signed that document because I believe that it is right, and I believe that it is time. Revolution?  To some, yes, but to me, it was a simple matter of doing the right thing.

It’s not easy to stand up for what you believe in. Sure, it’s easy to blog about your political beliefs, but it’s not easy to stand by them when the time calls for it.  After all, people will just accuse you of being “used by power-grabbers.”  People will call you names, people will look down on your convictions, perhaps even spit on it.— Or mock it.  Or tell you to shut up, because you can’t do anything about it…

…The question is not who we will replace the President with, but to find the President guilty or not guilty of the charges pressed against her.  Not the least of which is the charge that she deceived the public – and compromised the integrity and sovereignty of the Philippines – through the BJE MOA-AD.  If she is, I believe that she should face the fair and just consequences of her actions.  I believe that justice is not about personalities, but about doing the right thing.

Those are the things I believe/  I believe in doing the right thing.  I may not do it all the time, but when I signed that document – even with painful hands – I knew I did the right thing.  If I didn’t, what would be my excuse? It’s not because I’m a hero or because I’m a martyr, but because I am a Filipino…

…Had you been there, you would have felt the same thing, perhaps even made up an excuse to chicken out and forsake your responsibility to this nation.  I know: I was that close to doing it.  What motivated me was not a sense of blow-hard patriotism, but a sense of obligation.  People lived and died that this country remain whole, united, strong, and be held under one flag.  What, I ask, prevents me from doing the same thing?What’s my excuse?  What makes me think for one second that only heroes and patriots, or politicians with official ambitions, have the right to speak out against the injustices and excesses of the regime?

Now, I think it’s time for our honorable Members of the House to do the right thing.  It is not right to wait for the President to finish her term; what is right is whether she has two years left or two days left, she should be held accountable.  The Members of the House should know that justice is not about numbers or pluralities, but about morals and sensibilities.  It is about fairness, justice, and freedom: words and perspectives that Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo no longer represents, at least in my eyes.

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Let me tell you about what transpired after the brief press conference concluded. We went to the Secretary-General’s office, but once there, a problem came up. She was, at first, reluctant to receive our document. Closed-door consultations took place, phone calls were made, at times, our legal counsel were asked to wait outside.

Everyone tried to keep themselves entertained.

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The elder intervenors texted or chatted.

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The media and I exchanged notes on House procedures, and I decided to have a bit of a look-see.

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So much for the separation of Church and State!

But what I found most interesting were the items posted on the Secretary-General’s cork board.

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Various official notices, and a page of statistics on the current composition of the House; and most intriguing of all:

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This editorial cartoon on the BJE-MOA!

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As media people hovered outside the Secretary-General’s door, the wrangling continued.

From what I gathered, the Secretary-General first asked for time to “read the document,” then a legal wrangle ensued over whether she had “jurisdiction” over the intervention. Now the Secretary-General is in charge of the secretariat of the House, and her job is to oversee the expeditious reception, filing, transmission and filing of documents. She is not supposed to make judgement calls about the documents themselves.

In the end, after close to 45 minutes of bringing our lawyers in, sending them out, consulting upstairs and sideways in the House hierarchy, the Secretary-General announced she would receive the document, as the intervention was “unprecedented,” and leave the fate of the document to the relevant committees of the House.

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And so she received them, and everyone got to go home.

A word on the role bloggers played in putting this document forward for the consideration of the House.

Among those who signed this document are the following bloggers, who have decided to take their personal stands not just in the blogosphere but in the institutions of our nation.

Marck Ronald Rimorin, The Marocharim Experiment
Arbet W. Bernardo, [email protected],
Richard Rivera, New Philippine Revolution,
Jeremy Gatdula, Blurry Brain,
Manuel L. Quezon III, The Daily Dose,
Maria Jose (in Davao City), Alleba Politics,
Here is the statement I read a the press conference on behalf of the bloggers who signed:

PANAWAGAN

Unang-una sa lahat, ang mga naniniwala na ang impeachment ay isang “numbers game,” ay may mentalidad ng isang tuta na sunud-sunuran at hindi ginagamit ang pag-iisip bilang isang tao.

Ang Kongreso ay may dalawang bahagi – ang Kamara de Representates, at ng Senado.

Kapag ang isang Presidente ay may hinaharap na sakdal tungkol sa kanyang mga gawain bilang punong ehekutibo, ang Kamara ay ang tumatanggap ng mga akusasyon laban sa Pangulo, at gumagampan ng pag-aaral ng ebidensya upang makilatis kung ito ay masusustansya at kung ito ay dapat ipursigi at litisin sa Senado.

Bilang mga pangkaraniwang mamamayan, bilang mga blogger, beterano, sibilyan, Kristiyano, at Muslim, kami ay naniniwala na obligasyon namin na patibayin ng husto ang mga paratang laban sa Pangulo ng Pilipinas.

Sa aming pananaw ay dapat bigyan atensiyon ng Kamara ang isyu ng BJE-MOA sa pagitan ng Pangulo at ng MILF, ukol sa Mindanao. Ang usapang ito ay nabuo na may pahintulot ng Pangulo; ang sinasaad nito ay idineklara ng Korte Suprema na labag sa Saligang Batas. Kung hindi pumasok sa usapin ang Korte Suprema, marahil ay nagkapirmahan na sana sa Kuala Lumpur, sapagkat bukod sa inaprobahan ang kasunduang ito ng Pangulo, ay ipinahintulutan pa niya ang kanyang mga kinatawan na mangumbida ng mga representante ng iba’t ibang bansa sa Kuala Lumpur.

Tinutulan ang BJE-MOA na ito ng maraming residente ng Mindanao – lalong-lalo na ang mga Kristiyano at ang kanilang mga opisyales; ang iba naman, tulad ng ating mga Kapatid na Muslim, ay umasa na may kongkretong usapan sila ng Pangulo ngunit sila ay basta na lamang tinalikuran. Maaaring wala talaga siyang intensyon na ipatupad ang kanilang usapan, at sinadya niyang itago ang kasunduang ito sa mamamayan upang masabi niya na hindi naman nya ito maitutuloy sa dahilang hindi pa hinog ang panahon.

May panindigan o pananaw man o wala ang ordinaryong mamamayan sa usapang ito, ang naidulot lamang nito ay perwisyo at sakuna: sa buhay, ari-arian, kapayapaan at ekonomiya hindi lang ng Mindanao, kundi ng buong Pilipinas.

Ang ibig sabihin nito ay ginawang laruan ng Pangulong Arroyo ang buong Mindanao dahil lamang sa paghahanap ng malulusutan upang isulong ang pag-amyenda sa Saligang Batas o ang Cha-Cha.

Ang ibig sabihin nito ay inilagay sa peligro ng Pangulong Arroyo ang lahat ng naninirahan sa Mindanao dahil lamang sa kanyang mga ambisyon.

Kung kaya’t dahil sa mga ikinilos at ginawa niya; sa paglabag niya sa Saligang Batas; sa pagtalikod nya sa kanyang sinumpaang obligasyon na protektahan at depensahan ang Saligang Batas; sa paglihim niya sa mamamayang Pilipino ng mga patungkol sa mga probisyon na nais niyang isulong sa kasunduan; sa malinaw na panloloko niya sa mga kapatid nating Muslim; sa maraming nasawi or nabawian ng buhay na sibilyan at militar; at dahil sa kaguluhang idinulot nya sa Mindanao; ay pinaninindigan namin na dapat maisama sa impeachment complaint ang usapin na ito.

Ayun kay Atty. Neri Colmenares, kailangan lang namin ma-isumite ang interbensyon na ito, upang maaksyunan ng Kamara. Hindi na daw kailangan i-endorse ito ng sinumang diputado o kinatawan. Kami ay naniniwala kay Atty. Colmenares at sa mga kinatawan ng oposisyon sa Kamara.

Ngunit nananawagan pa din kami na kung maaari, sa darating na Lunes, ika-17 ng Nobyembre, ay i-endorse pa rin ng mga kinatawan ng oposisyon ang aming inihahain na dokumento na siyang pinagaralan namin at nilagdaan bilang pagpapatunay na ito ay ang aming panindigan. Kung kaya’t umaasa kami na sana ito rin ang maging panindigan ng mga kongresista sa oposisyon at ng mga kinatawan na miyembro ng mayoriya, na tumutol sa kasunduang BJE-MOA.

Sa paraan na ito, ay mawawakasan na ang bangayan sa ating lipunan, mabibgyan ng pagkakataon ang Pangulo na sagutin ang mga paratang sa kanya, at makakasiguro ang Kongreso at ang taong-bayan na hindi nagtatago ang Pangulo sa likod ng kanyang mga patakbuhin.

Ang impeachment ay hindi nasasakluban ng executive privilege. Walang executive privilege ang impeachment. Kung tatalakayin ng tapat at ng walang kinikilingan ang mga paratang na nasasaloob sa impeachment complaint, kung pakikinggan ng wasto ang mga testigo, at kung pag-aaralang mabuti ang mga ebidensyang inihain ng mga complainant sa Kamara, ay makasisiguro tayo na magwawakas rin ang alitan ng administrasyon at oposisyon at ang pagkakahati ng ating mamamayan.

Nananawagan po kami sa sambayanang Pilipino na sana ay suportahan ang aming interbensyon.

Nais po naming magpasalamat sa lahat ng mga tumulong sa amin, sila Joey de Venecia, ang mga bloggers na lumagada, ang mga kapatid naming Muslim na siya ring lumagda, ang mga taga iba’t ibang hanay ng oposisyon na tumulong upang maging masustansya at matibay ang interbensyon na ito.

Pagkatapos naming isumite itong intervention na ito ay padadalhan namin ang bawat miyembro ng oposisyon ng kopya ng dokumento.

Kami ay nananampalataya na sa Lunes ay i-endorse na rin nila, kahit hindi kinakailangan, bilang pagpapatunay na buo ang loob at sentimyento nila na panagutin ang Pangulong Arroyo sa kanyang paglabag sa ating Saligang Batas at sa mga katiwalian niyang ginawa at patuloy na ginagawa.

Maraming Salamat po. Mabuhay po Kayo.

And here is the cover letter attached to CD-ROMs containing this document, which will be provided members of the House minority bloc. The bloggers have asked the House minority to reply, by Monday, stating whether they will fight for this intervention or not; and inviting them to formally endorse it as a stand they will take. Some fellow columnists and I have also asked them to answer two questions.

November ___, 2008

Hon. _________

Representative, ____ District, ________

House of Representatives

Quezon City Dear

Rep. ________:

Today, together with ____ other intervenors, I have filed an intervention to add the Memorandum of Agreement concerning the proposed Bangsamoro Juridical Entity to the impeachment charges being considered by the House. Our intervention is based on the following premises:

1. That the House of Representatives, in deliberating upon the charges against the President of the Philippines, should strive to put together as strongand comprehensive a case as possible, in order to properly and thoroughly address all the issues that demand accountability from the chief executive.

2. That the citizenry is obligated to do its part to help fortify the case against the President of the Philippines.

We are of the opinion, and submit for your consideration and endorsement, that:

1. The President of the Philippines must be held accountable for violating her oath of office in authorizing and supporting an agreement that has been proven to be contrary to the Constitution. Any President is duty-bound to operate within the parameters established by the Constitution, and when a President deliberately disregards our Constitution’s provisions, there must be an accounting made to the citizenry.

2. The President must therefore be held accountable for what the Supreme Court has ruled to be an agreement that violated our Constitution.

3. That furthermore, the President must be held accountable for setting back the peace process; and for placing ordinary citizens, Muslim and Christian alike, in Mindanao, in peril because of the recklessness and faithlessness, with which she conducted the negotiations for the agreement. She has done grevious harm to the prosperity and tranquility of Mindanao and the entire country and her doing so is a violation of public trust and her Constitutional responsibilities.

She betrayed the public, and all the parties that participated in the peace process in good faith and with a historic resolution of ancient grievances in mind. We believe that we have made a strong case for including the BJE-MOA among the charges against the President.

We believe that this is a matter of such seriousness as to require the House of Representatives providing the President with an opportunity to explain herself to you, our representatives, and through you, to an alarmed and outraged public.

We further believe that the President will find it impossible to satisfactorily explain herself and that as a consequence, the House will find it necessary to include our intervention among the impeachment charges.

May I respectfully invite you, then, to endorse our intervention, so that ample opportunity may be provided for the President of the Philippines to air her side, and for the public to be informed, through you, once and for all, about the circumstances surrounding the agreement.

I am confident that you will respond to the overwhelming clamor of the citizenry, throughout the country but particularly in Mindanao, for public policy to be conducted in good faith, without recklessness and imprudence, and with the true interests of the nation at heart and not just partisan political convenience for the administration.

May I also invite you, on behalf of myself and my colleagues, Jarius Bondoc and William Esposo of the Philippine Star, Ellen Tordesillas of Malaya, and Manuel Buencamino of The Business Mirror, to state, for the record, your response to these two questions:

1. How do you intend to vote on the impeachment complaint already filed before the House? Will you be present at the committee level and plenary voting on these charges?

2. Are you in favor of including the BJE-MOA among the impeachment charges, and why or why not.

We trust you will give your answer to us by Wednesday so we can publish them.

And we further trust that you will find our intervention meritorious and worthy of your endorsement.

Respectfully yours,

Manuel L. Quezon III

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333 thoughts on “Intervention for the Prosecution: Why the BJE-MOA is an impeachable offense

  1. one unsolicited advice – follow how Erap was impeached

    the one-complaint-deliberated-by-the-justice-committee-then-referred-to-the-plenary-for-approval just doesn’t work

    first get 1/3 of the House members to sign a verified complaint, then file it. upon filing, it has to be sent to the Senate right away (Art. 11 sec. 4, 1987 Constitution)

    you can leverage the concerned House members’ receipt of fertilizer money

  2. we may all have different views, but i admire your resolve to proactively mold a better country.

    Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!

  3. Why are you still supporting an impeachment? why are you still trying to impeach her? because of moral grounds? fuck you all!!! impeaching her at this time is not the best way to solve our problems!!!

    fuck your moral grounds!!!

  4. Good job, bloggerfolk. You and the intervention are now part of the public record. How does the intervention work, by the way? How, for example, can it not be construed as a separate complaint?

    (I find the bit about the secretary-general wanting to read the document first before accepting it hilarious. Maybe she thought it was a practical joke.)

  5. really what are your reasons for impeaching her??? the only thing you’re good at is impeaching people!!! do you really think thats the best way of solving our problems??? impeaching that bitch arroyo??? com’on guys!!! wer’e smarter than that!!!

    I hope i get some reply on why impeaching arroyo at this time is beneficial to us all!

  6. Isnt it obvious, khris? Their reasons are the reasons everybody has for impeaching Arroyo. To further their political ambitions. They want to rule in her place. What else could they be?

    Seriously, the reasons are in the complaint itself. Culpable violation of the constitution that the office of the prez swore to uphold among other things. Is it beneficial? Who knows? Maybe, maybe not. We dont suspend the law of the land on considerations about whether it is beneficial to do so or not. Will it succeed? Who knows? Probably not. But like I said, the complaint is now part of the official records and future generations can see that not all people stood idly by because they thought enforcing the law at that time wasnt ‘beneficial’. Did I answer your question? If not, Im sure there will be others perfectly happy to do so.

    (See what happens when you ask nicely? 🙂 )

  7. Bill Clinton went through an impeachment process for committing fellatio in the Oval office and trying to cover up his indiscretion.

    Here the Queen has been “sodomizing” the Constitutional process with her wrap on dick and people complain why so many impeachment complaints?

    Why Not?

    Some wise old Justice once wrote that the most important office is not the Office of the President but the Office of Citizenship.

    The majority who participate in politics as citizens apart from simply voting are the true principals of the representative agents within the state.

    The silent ones do not count.

  8. Hurray!

    Yes, let this be on record for future generations to see that GMA was a corrupt and incompetent government official.

    No amount of sanitiser can remove the stench on her record. It will be her legacy.

  9. More Power Manolo! Courage, like cowardice is contagious!

    The impeachment complaint may not prosper. BUT,we should let future generations remember the sins of the infamous PIDAL clan.

    Let their apos google their names one day and the results about their famous lola and lolo will certainly shock them!

    Let’s engrave in the annals of blogsphere the impeachment complaint for future reference!

  10. Off-topic but…

    I’m sure you need the ad revenue but it’s kinda off-putting to see Indian-babe cleavage right after “Respectfully yours, Manuel L. Quezon III.” 🙂 (This goes for the other posts, too.) You can specify which types of ads to place using Google ads, right?

  11. @hvrds

    apologies for being pedantic but maybe you mean ‘prostituting’ instead of ‘sodomizing’. sodomy is not bad per se (especially if consensual), it’s a normal sexual act that can be enjoyed by hetero and homosexual couplings. if you mean GMA’s ‘sodomizing’ was forced upon the people, then the more appropriate term is ‘rape’. Yes, GMA has raped the government.

    sorry, just so the impressionable people know that sodomy is not a sin.

    cheers

  12. Gloria:

    “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.”

    A.Lincoln

  13. so you’re just supporting the impeachment for the sake of the record, that people filed for her impeachment so other generations can see it. arent you people tired? how many times have you tried to impeach her. com’on guys lets move on.

    can we not let her do her job?

    have you ever though that the reason she’s not doing her job well coz she has so many things to think other than solving our problems?

    put yourself in her situation. she’s trying to solve our problem and at the same time try to stay in power.

    all you guys do is blame her for our woes!

    its not entirely on the government officials fault why we have problems. its us the FILIPINO people. we’re the one’s who voted for them.

    i didnt vote for arroyo last presidential election. but im not blaming her.

  14. the reason why im really against impeachment process coz:

    its such a waste of time.

    ill ask you people, who conduct the impeachment process? its the senators and the congressmen right?

    dont you think our senators and congressmen have more pressing things to do like passing reform bills for our economy?

    if the impeachment reach the senate and congress then they have to hear it. then we are already wasting time.

    why dont we just move on. lets not waster their already wasted time.

    you want to impeach her. because she is corrupt, immoral. but would impeaching her be the solution? i dont think so. i would only make it worse. coz the cycle will repeat itself. the former administration will now become the opposition. and here we go again! back to the cycle!!!

    so please think first, what could happen during the impeachment process and after we have impeached her!!!

    think guys! think!

  15. i do believe that bitch arroyo is corrupt and immoral president but impeaching her wont do us any good! we’ve tried so many times already. lets move on. she’s on her way out!

    lets not repeat the cycle!!!

  16. “we’re the one’s who voted for them.”

    Excuse me, baka ikaw.

    GMA “won” a plurality of votes and not a majority ano.

    Think? Eh impeachment is a legal and non-violent process. At least some people are not stooping down to GMA’s level – using violence to suppress genuine dissent.

    To paraphrase sister Stella: KUng hindi ngayon, kailan…kung hindi tayo, sino?

    We must APPLY HIGH STANDARDS for leaders and if we do it now, and not tomorrow we have a higher chance of stopping the vicious cycle that you describe.

  17. [To paraphrase sister Stella: KUng hindi ngayon, kailan…kung hindi tayo, sino?]

    you and your moral grounds!!!

    you’re too emotional! you try to impeach her without thinking of the consequences! she’s leaving in two years! c’mon!

    can you recall what happened during the impeachment of erap? its too chaotic!!! and weve successfully impeached erap! and then what? we’re stil trying to impeach the next president? impeaching erap didnt do us any good. so why do we wanna go through that process again? huh?

    if impeachment will do us good. then why not. but impeachment will not do us any good! recall erap’s time man!

  18. Duh, impeaching a corrupt and incompetent president does not hinge on moral or emotional grounds ano.

    And stop twisting history, Erap was not SUCCESSFULLY impeached. The private prosecutors walked out throwing it into chaos.

  19. ok fine. impeaching arroyo doent hinge on moral or emotional grounds.

    but do you really think impeaching her would do us good?

    and ok fine again. my mistake! erap wasnt impeach. but the fact that the process of his impeachment is too chaotic should make you guys think twice of going through that again.

    try to reply on my arguments not on the irrelevant technicalities

  20. Practice makes perfect.

    The more often the Philippines impeaches its presidents, then the better the Philippines gets at it.

  21. [Practice makes perfect.

    The more often the Philippines impeaches its presidents, then the better the Philippines gets at it.]

    really? i consider this statement a joke! hehe!

  22. “we’re the one’s who voted for them.”

    I probably have my vote counted for GMA, thanks to Garci.

    “The more often the Philippines impeaches its presidents, then the better the Philippines gets at it.”

    i’d prefer have a civilian-military style overthrow of her administration ala 2001 “people power”.

  23. khris, let’s start with something we all learned in kinder. you can get away with being naughty a lot of the time but if teacher catches you, you have to sit in the corner.

    i’ve done my share of being naughty and when you get caught and run out of luck, you get punished one way or another. in the end you hopefully get to see it’s better all around if you’re not as naughty as you’d like to be, specially if it has to do with things people gave you responsibilities for.

    but if you see the kid who gets away with it and you want to get away with it too and you will want to try to be as brilliantly evil as that other kid.

    that’s the whole issue at it’s most basical level. of course ap resident is something entirely more complicated. we elect our president for fixed terms. it has to take something pretty serious to basically fire a president from the job ahead of time.

    what would make firing worth it? consider the times you’ve been fired and what went into that decision, or the times you’ve seen someone fired. consider that some pretty high level people end up fired. and why.

    you’re jumping the gun of course. the process is actually to stop bitching about the president and to find a way, short of an armed mob and a revolution, to put lay the cards on the table and tell the employee, hey, this is too much. what the hell is going on? everyone has a right to defend themselves.

    so you charge the president. you ask congress to bring in both sides. you have to consider the possibilty on one hand the charges are bogus and on the other, what if theyre serious.

    in the case of the bje moa guess what -the whole deliberation on wheether there is evidence or something wrong has already been done. by the supreme court. no ifs and buts about it. she undertook a policy thats utterly wrong, because its utterly beyond the parameters established by the constitution.

    so then the only question left for congress to determine is this: since the supreme court said she did something wrong, should she be punished? should she lose her job?

    it’s a job that is a special one: she asks soldiers as their commander in chief, to die for their country. isnt it relevant that she does so because of violence due to policies of her own making -policies that betreayed the very constitution she’s sworn to uphold?

    her job is to ssupervise and administer the bureaucracy. she claims she wants to grow the economy. when people start thinking there may be christian versus muslim ethnic cleansing does that help the economy, does that not put forward problems and concerns that she herself caused? and there should be no consequence?

    consider the lack of consequences for betraying your job description: no one else holding that job will consider that job description as anything more than a suggestion. and when that happens how is anyone else supposed to know where they stand?

    but again: can you find any better way to sort out these issues, short of ignoring them and guaranteeing, by doing that, that those problems arise over and over again? and without someone deciding this is all so much foolishness they should just do the country a favor and plant a bomb somewhere? where does that leave the ecobomy the simple desire to live quietly, and the whole stability of society?

  24. jeg, rep. mat defensor has openined that the majority will consider it a second complaint. surprise, surprise. the point is the issue was absent, it is now present, it can be made to disappear by a legislative legerdemain but the issue hopefully will haunt them, somehow. it at least won’t imperil the original complaint, which would have to be dispensed with before the intervention is tackled.

    the committee of justice has informed it’s people that the impeachment hearings will be from nov. 18-21 so they have set aside four days to do their dirty deed.

  25. The complaint-in-intervention is an eloquent and masterfully written (and thoroughly researched) document which lucidly spells out the reason why GMa’s complicity in the junked BJE-MOA is an impeachable offense. The House ignores it at its peril. i doff my hat off to the bloggers (if I had a hat to doff) who put this “unprecedented” move forward.

    And unlike missingpoints, I don’t mind seeing a Bollywood babe right after “Respectfully yours, Manuel L. Quezon III.” Sort of puts an emphatic, cross-cultural exclamation point to the arguments set forth above.

  26. Well-written, this comment:

    The complaint-in-intervention is an eloquent and masterfully written (and thoroughly researched) document which lucidly spells out the reason why GMa’s complicity in the junked BJE-MOA is an impeachable offense. The House ignores it at its peril.

    But my expectation ??? the House will ignore “it”. Fr. Bernas one of the cool-headed 😎 experts had already written many weeks ago that there are many instances where it is constitutional to work for an agreement even when an act of congress or a con-con is to make some terms of the agreement work. Treaties and all such stuff make good examples.

  27. khris wrote: so you’re just supporting the impeachment for the sake of the record… can we not let her do her job?

    for the record khris, she’s being impeached precisely because she hasn’t done her job. The BJE-MOA was a violation of her job to uphold the Consti and the integrity of the Republic.

    Add that to the list of GMA’s broken promises, i.e. the building of a strong republic.

    impeachment is the citizens’ termination letter for a president who has failed to do her job.

  28. While I sense that it will fail, I agree that it is worthwhile for members of Congress (with encouragement from metro-Manila civil society) to pursue impeachment.

    And while romanticist Abe Margallo would disagree, my preference is the constitutional process (impeachment that conforms to the constitution) over 2001-Philippine-brand People Power.

    Most of the times, “Take it to court” is better than gunfight at OK corral.

  29. you’re very all hyped up by the impeachment of arroyo.
    yeah arroryo is corrupt and all.

    can the economy still recover after going through another impeachment process?

    and after successfully impeaching her who would succeed her?

    you people are all concerned on the impeaching part. you’re all present on that part with all your signature.

    now after impeaching her what are you gonna do? saan ko ba kau makikita?

    “I agree. We shouldn’t distract GMA from looting the country. More power to you.” –> not a good reply. i hope you have proofs of your accusations.

    i hope you consider that the people who wants PGMA removed from her position are as dirty as she is.

    you want her to be removed coz its the moral thing to do. but the moral thing is not always the right thing!!!

  30. think of the consequences. think about the chaos and what its effect on the economy. PGMA wont go down easily. she would bring many people with her. she will fight to stay in power.

    and it would really be very chaotic once its started. do you really wanna go back to the time of erap? to the time when the economy was really really down and the situation is very tense? even though the economy is not that well now with the impending global recession. at least the climate is a bit stable.

    be intelligent! dont just think of the impeaching her. think about the consequences of impeaching her. would it be good for all or not…

  31. ah, the old refuge, “do you really wanna go back to the time of erap?”

    i hate to put erap in a comparative pedestal, but i don’t remember erap being accused of amassing billions of pesos in pocketed loans, loans that salaried workers like myself will be paying for years to come through our income taxes.

    as for stability and poverty incidence? the gap between the rich and poor have been widening. and is our only recourse to go abroad? because the corrupt are gobbling up more of the shrinking pie? this has been going on for years, before erap, but man, this is now as worse as it gets.

    and the brazenness of all these functionaries. they don’t even act as if they care about their constituents. they’re downright condescending! write your congressman, pfft. when has one letter to your congressman ever mattered to him, after gobbling up more and more pork? it takes a concerted effort for them to hear you and make it harder to ignore you.

    I cheer you on and will pledge my support; hopefully something good will come out of it. how do we sign up?

  32. GMA is in a dilemma regards the new impeachment move. The piggy bank is drying up…no more Bolante fertilizer, no new ZTE deal, she is a lame duck so Pagcor will surely keep it’s distance from her. No more milking cow this time.

    She has her savings alright, but that’s for the rainy days ahead when finally she’s out of the bank vault where she is now.

    Her only way of getting out of this impeachment threat is to invite the congressmen, again, to the palace guesthouse.

    If she uses her savings this time then she might not have enough money to fly to Hawaii to enjoy the sunny weather there.

    So, where will she get those glossy,glossy paper bags this time?

    Who knows.

  33. Holy cow, let’s throw everything to the president, including the kitchen sink.

    –loy

    DON’T YOU TOUCH THE SINK!

    Just get rid of that stink.

  34. This is what we can expect from the Senate Blue Ribbon hearings on the fertilizer scam with Joc Joc Bolante:NOTHING.

    Expect Bolante’s lawyer,Antonio Zulueta to invoke Bolante’s right to privacy.

    The OMERTA code of the Pidals will be strictly enforced!

  35. and ok fine again. my mistake! erap wasnt impeach. but the fact that the process of his impeachment is too chaotic should make you guys think twice of going through that again.

    –khris

    the process at all was not chaotic! it just wasn’t followed. or did you yourself not follow the erap impeachment process which power grabbers didn’t follow. do you follow me?

  36. number cruncher ther best that can be done is to contact your congressman; to write to the papers, to send text messages to the news and public affairs shows, or phone in to radio shows. and talking to friends particularly in civic organization. make your support tangible. thank you.

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