Crisis Management, Immigration, and Devolution

It’s an interesting time to be in the UK, where the Mother of All Parliaments, the House of Commons, has been roiled by infighting and discouraging economic news.

The Chancellor of the Exchequer ignited a firestorm of protest last week: see Chancellor Alistair Darling warns slump could be the worst for 60 years, precipitating a slump in the Pound Sterling and a furious debate over whether he acted irresponsibly or not. In many ways the entire thing -including debating whether government ministers ought to be blunt or Pollyanna-like in their official statements, the reliability or unreliability of official statistics, the question of whether the chief executive should take the fall to prevent the decimation of the party- sounds eerily familiar and because of that, oddly comforting.

The Brits are working through issues not very different from our own and it seems to be there isn’t all that much of a difference between the way British and Filipino politicians are trying to do damage control: orare ignoring public opinion altogether while politicizing previously relatively partisan-free civil service institutions.

The Times in a recent editorial (which came at the heels of the paper’s report that a sacking was in the offing), The twilight of Sir Ian Blair, looked at the controversial head of Scotland Yard and took him to task in all-too-familiar (for Filipinos) terms:

His responses are by now well practised. He believes that near-constant pressure to quit is an occupational hazard to be shrugged off if not actually ignored. And he believes mutinous disloyalty from senior colleagues is an inevitable result of radical reforms of which he is fiercely proud.

The trouble for Sir Ian is that his reforms have not made him indispensable. Nor can he be sanguine any longer about the calls for him to go. His support from the Association of Chief Police Officers and the Home Office has crumbled: his contract will not be renewed in 2010. This makes him a lame duck not only in the view of his many critics, but in fact. If his record were spectacular, this newspaper would back his bid to stay in office until the 2012 Olympics and beyond. Unfortunately, it is not.

What sets the British media apart from our own is the deeper sense of memory, whether institutional, national, and personal, that the media, the politicians, and commentators have. For example, Libby Purves in Why did Alistair Darling choose 1948? points out a fascinating detail, concerning 1948 as a watershed year for Britain despite postwar austerity:

The disreputable anomaly of plural voting was abolished – previously university graduates could vote in two places, and business owners had an extra vote at their place of work.

The odd thing of course being that there are frustrated middle and upper class Filipinos who continue to think plural voting might be a good thing.

The business and finance media, too, write clearly and informatively, something hardly ever seen at home. The Business Editor of The Times pens an analysis: This slowdown has a long way to go yet — so just look forward to the sales. And there are short, but richly informative reports that contextualize the economic news. An article Is the party over for pubs? points out British pubs are closing at the rate of four per day and also ties in the various economic trends (crashing property prices, increasing food and labor costs, etc.) into the uncertain future of a British institution.

In Britain 2028: we need ten new cities, please, Camilla Cavendish looks at the immigration policies of the UK, something that ought to be of interest to Filipinos living and working here.

Just today, Gordon Brown to increase Holyrood’s tax powers focuses on the great Labour project of restoring the Scottish Parliament and increasing its powers over taxation and budgeting: again, this ia a debate erupting in Britain which should be interesting to proponents of Federalism.

Update: Only Blair could save Labour now provides an insight into how more “mature” democracies factor surveys into the political situation, and how past and present leaders can add and detract from their party’s future prospects.

A great pleasure is reading the obituaries published in the British papers. See K.K. Birla: industrial tycoon and philanthropist.

 

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638 thoughts on “Crisis Management, Immigration, and Devolution

  1. mlq 3,

    official designation of RP as RP according to leytenian connotes “corruption”, while P.I. so exotic, sexier and seductive…. i agree… colonial connotation is somewhere in the rescesses of our past… we should be able to outgrow them.

    as shakespeare said: ” RP by any other name will smell as sweet”.

    of course, nash, the word is “rose”.

    pilipinoparin,

    you can even call me sclavo, idiot, indio, filibusteros, won’t affect me because i am not that kind of person and i will simply laughed at the designation. one has already called me monkey and one with cognitive deficit. does not affect me any least, on the contrary, i was amused. 🙂

  2. hmmmm, ang galing na logic yan ha – one doesn’t/does connote colonialism and the other connotes corruption and then the suggestion to outgrow connotation but then use one over the other?

    grabe, it’s so deep…

  3. Mukhang mali ang hula ko sa tennis,mananalo si Federer.

    ============================================
    PI is now a shortcut for the tagalog translation SOB and hijo de P…….. .
    Leytenian ,still find it sexy,but no one is stopping you from using it.That goes the same for JCC.
    di naman alam ng mga kano yun eh,unless told by a Filipino.

  4. i am still laughing while making this post. if i can refer RP as P.I., then i cannot really understand all these brouhaha in the first place…. or was this an afterthought because we really are being ridiculous in insisting that we used RP for Philippines because P.I is co colonial and derogatory. 🙂

  5. there is no brouhaha, remember it was you who asserted that PI was an OFFICIAL designation in the international community when it is NOT.

    I myself call my beloved country ‘the third world’ and ‘hobbit shire’

  6. nash,

    because whenever i ship items from my business and there is a dropdown box to choose from which country i should ship it, the Philippines is listed as P.I. and not RP.

    and it was a site for USPs and I have no idea that such has derogatory implication until some “nationalists” started calling my attention about it. and the US does not use it with derogatory meaning either.

  7. now on links.

    I do that too.the wikipedia forum calls this reference vomit.(iba pa yung footnote citations)
    pero di naman kasi lahat dito wide reader at madami nang napagdaanan sa mundo. Kung me sinasabi yung isang tao,instead of ignoring the guy you try to know what the hell he or she is talking about. Para maka relate ka din.Kung wala kang pakialam don’t scroll down toooo slowly dahil palaging me ganyan.

    pero di naman pati yung “what to do with know it alls “ay ikacut and paste pa,sobra naman yata yun.
    ( I googled the first sentence and surprise,it was lifted!)

    tapos pag walang nilagay na source o quotation marks o italicization,or even paraphrasing; that is no longer sharing,that is lifting.lt is like showing off your brand new smuggled/carjacked car.

  8. Nash,
    napansin ko din na back to form pinagbasihan ko lang yung labanni Muray at nadal.Madami pa paang kakaining bigas yung mga iba.

    Tama ka ,yung mga talo ni Fed sa tatlong grandslam ay di dahil mas magaling yung ibang player kundi nasira ang laro ni FEd.

  9. @kg

    The Fed directs those balls in impossible directions. No wonder the particle accelerator is in Switzerland. (Well, 3/4 of it is)

    i hoped murray would win for the cinderella reasons but he was clearly outclassed.

    parang P.I. Basketball team, we root for them but if we are being realistic alam nating 4th lang sila palagi in Asia…or yung swimmer natin sa olympics na pandak, alam nating dive palang isang daliri na lamang ni Phelps pero sige, baka there will be miracles.

  10. JCC
    nauso kasi ang political correctness.
    Tulad ng “N” word kailangan pag banggitin mo yan siguraduhin mong wala si Oprah sa tabi tabi.

    pero ang mga rapper at hip hop naman patuloy pa din ang pag gamit nito.

    pero padami ng pami ang mga bawal at pang asar tulad ng Flip Flop para sa mga fickle minded dati sa slippers lang ito.O baka din, sa mga gumagawa ng Pizza.

    o sige, let’s not accuse each other of false nationalism or false patriotism;with your exchanges with HVRDS who by the way is a he,you might already know the feeling about having a nerve pinched.

  11. hahaha, funny you guys..

    both PI and RP are not marketable. try google searching RP and PI, on the first page of google. RP means Received Pronunciation and PI means: the mathematics pi.
    it has nothing to do with Philippines on the net.

    hay naku.. basta , am from the Philippine Island. The island is hot and sexy. It sounds very expensive, very marketable. It smells like pineapple…. hahahah…

  12. jcc,

    ‘i am still laughing while making this post. if i can refer RP as P.I., then i cannot really understand all these brouhaha in the first place….’

    The brouhaha is about your insistence that PI is the internationally recognized name of the Republic of the Philippines when it is not.

  13. supremo,

    it is internationally recognized. please see my previous post in answer to Nash. besides, it was not my insistence that it was internationally recognized that brought out this brouhaha, it was the insistence of some bloggers that P.I. is derogatory and colonial that spiced the controversy not the insistence that it was recognized internationally.

    please review all posts.

  14. KG,

    you are too funny. your sense of humor is so natural. I like it.

    “pero di naman pati yung “what to do with know it alls “ay ikacut and paste pa,sobra naman yata yun.
    ( I googled the first sentence and surprise,it was lifted!)”

    hahaha

    kaya nga: “Kung wala kang pakialam don’t scroll down toooo slowly dahil palaging me ganyan.”

    you really make me laugh… but honestly… i cut and paste due to limited time to edit…

    bakit kasi, binabasa mo yung sa akin… marami na man diyan na puede mong kulitin.. get me a break, please. lol

    sabi mo nag-uusap lang naman tayo dito… di bah?

  15. jcc,

    You said the following:

    ‘on the contrary the official designation of the Philippines is P.I. (meaning Philippine Island). you seem to have contempt towards Pinoy Navy sailors. These humble workers continue to remit part of their earnings to their relatives to the Philippines which collectively with all other remittancesof OF’s, U.S. immigrants and OFW ’scmake the economy of P.I. afloat.’

    ‘what has manolo’s preference to do with one’s right to refer to the Philippines in its official designation in the international community as P.I.? Unless you want to pander to Manolo’s bias or wanted to show your psycophantine side… i don’t think manolo would consider this issue a big deal to fret about… he is not tight minded, i suppose.’

    ‘p.i. is the official designation of the philippines in the international community.. if you believe otherwise, that’s you prerogative. if i believe it otherwise, that’s my prerogative too. but does not make you more patriotic because you call the Philippines, Philippines and I may call Philippines, P.I. – does not at all indicate one’s level of love for country.’

    My mistake.
    You did not say ‘internationally recognized’ but ‘official designation’.
    So I should have said
    ‘The brouhaha is about your insistence that PI is the official designation of the Republic of the Philippines when it is not.’

  16. Devolution in the Philippines…

    the countryside today very underdeveloped and poor.. why is that? Is it the form and structure of our government?

    Devolution is the transfer of both functions and decision-making authority to legally incorporated local government. It cannot move further under the old unitary system despite avowed goals expressed in the 1987 Constitution and the Local Government Code. ( Ceasr Villanueva)

    what’s been done?
    “Advocacy for Good Governance, Electoral Reform and Campaign for Charter Change. In politics and governance program, MINCODE sustained its promotion of participatory and good governance in 16 cities in Mindanao; coordinated with CODE-NGO in monitoring the utilization of “pork barrel” funds of Mindanao legislators; engaged in the 2007 national election through the bantay canvas in selected cities and provinces of Mindanao; and facilitated provincial consultations in Mindanao on charter change.”
    http://www.mincode.org/articles.php?cmd=all

    take note on Chacha and NGO implementation..

  17. To a businessman, the address “island” connotes financial sophistication with splashes bordering on shady if not criminal undertones. FATF says so.

    Cayman Islands, British Virgin Islands, Isle of Man, Channel Islands, Cook Islands, Marshall Islands, Grenadine Islands, including those that have dropped the word like Bahamas and Bermuda all fall in that category.

    So will you put your business address as Philippine Islands?

  18. supremo;

    OK, but would you please stop referring to the country as P.I. The official name is the Philippines, in case you have forgotten. I don’t know how long you have been in Tate, but you sound like one of those US navy types. (interpretation: I am being rebuked because of using P.I. instead of RP because of the derogatory undertone.)

    I remember our host saying that he did not like the designation ‘P.I.’ as well. (interpretation: mlq3 does not like RP being called P.I. because it has some colonial undertone.)

    jcc, unless i remembered wrongly, i think the reason Manolo objected to ‘P.I’ was precisely because it was not the proper name for the Republic of the Philippines. (interpretation,, the same as above)

    Using “P.I.” is an anachronism, like referring to Hawaii as the Sandwich Islands or Thailand as Siam. We are RP, if you absolutely have to use an acronym. We began the process of dropping PI with the adoption of the 1935 Constitution. (explanation, the same as above)

    Yes, I hate that acronym. “PI” being said/written by Filipinos. I berated my youngest sister when I heard her saying PI in the Bay Area. We had a long discussion of that PI among my co-alums. One of the publisher/editor in USA local newspaper sided with me and he hated that”PI”. We came along way, many Filipinos died and suffered just to change PI to RP, why not use RP? (self-explantatory.)

    Changing PI to RP is not a silly idea. The word REPUBLIC is important. It implies sovereignty. (interpretation, shades of patriotic flavor is very apparent).

    International Designation:

    Whenever I ship items from my place of business and the dropdown box already prepared listed Philippines as P.I. among the choices but not RP.
    When I download my drivers to the laptops I am selling, some websites would ask you from which country you are downloading from. The United States is designated as US and Philippines as P.I. It was under that impression that RP is officially designated in the international community as RP.

    But as I said, the insistence that I used RP instead of P.I. has least to do with that assumption that it was the Official Designation of the Philippines as RP as P.I., but because some bloggers believe that the use of P.I. for RP is quite derogatory and has some colonial connotation.

    That is clear enough from my standpoint and I need not say more.

  19. Tongue,
    Philippine Islands For business address ? It doesn’t sound exotic anymore… lol.

    Philippine island is only good for conversation but it depends on how one carries her/himself.

    PH is the 2 letter abbreviation for international shipping use by fedex, usps, dhl and ups. . PHL for 3 letters…

  20. Since ‘P.I.’ is the prefered designation of many Fil-Ams, we may as well use it for our tourism promotions, particularly those targetted at the sons and daughters of those Filipinos who have migrated to the States. I suggest the following slogan…

    P.I. ng ina mo…
    P.I. ng ama mo…
    P.I. ninyong lahat!!

    [Translation: your mother’s philippine islands, your father’s philippine islands, your islands]

  21. and it was a site for USPs and I have no idea that such has derogatory implication until some “nationalists” started calling my attention about it. and the US does not use it with derogatory meaning either.

    PI is not used by all Fil-ams. Only those who must have been out of the loop for decades.

    Even the US no longer use PI to mean RP.

    USPS’ drop down for countries’ name lists Philippines and not Philippine Islands.

    Freight and delivery services have to be updated in terms of names of countries or else, the packages won’t be delivered.

    They have been using software long after the PI was discarded.

  22. Buti nalang bumalik si C at.

    At least pag nagle-lecture siya hindi pang-nursery.

    Parang lately nasa daycare ako. Someone had to make subo pa nga google searches.

    😀

  23. “democrats are known to cut healthcare budget. what will happen to OF workers in the US with income decreasing and taxes increasing? how would it affect OF remittances to Philippines?”

    During the administration of Clinton, the changes introduced in the heathcare and social services were meant to check on abuses for these benefits.

    WIC was a program for mothers and children. The children are provided with free milk and other nutritional foods regardless of the income bracket of the parents.Free medical assistance too.

    Even those who can afford to buy got vouchers for free milk. Now they disqualify those earning income that exceeds the poverty line.

    I say, it was a good move since many of these free stuffs are just wasted to people who do not need them.

    Financial assistance for young mothers. These benefits were even granted to young women regardless of the immigration status. One Muslim businessman in the Bay Area (he’s now deceased) was accused of impregnating more than a hundred young women and made them claim for the monthly checks which was about 600 a month. The food stamps were used to buy foodstuff sthat went to his convenience store. He was an informal leader in his community.

    The change introduced was to require these women to undergo career training so they’re ready to become independent when their allotment is cut off after three or five years.

    There was one Russian woman who was sent by the Department of HS to train in our office. She did not like the idea. She was a contented “cow”receiving the freebies
    which included food stamps, monthly allowance and low cost housing accommodations and this was because she had a baby with her lover.

    The SSI and Medicaid for old folks who did not work and did not pay FICA were limited to US Citizen only except for those greencardholders who were already receiving these
    benefits before the law was implemented.

  24. cat,

    i just shipped a package with P.I. as the designated country of destination and it reached the consignee. but as i said, this is small stuff. – and it proves my point that i get all these flak because P.I. is an anachronism, out of style and has derogatory meaning, as some nationalists have noted, and I am out of the loop.

    KG,

    were you the one who called me “companyero” in this blog? Please visit my site because I have a new post there which might interest you. 🙂

  25. the cat,

    yes it was a good move for clinton but bad for me when i was in the healthcare industry. i and many of my filipino friends were laid off., maybe about 60% of healthcare work force were forced to change career. that was PPS.

    the economy is just not ready for another changes as of yet. With 6.1 current unemployment … i don’t know if changing healthcare system to Universal healthcare- like the canadian healthcare system will actually help the overall unemployment problem. It may but something is going to give…. quality healthcare and fee for services.

    so do you agree of Universal healthcare- healthcare for all by democrats?

    “One Muslim businessman in the Bay Area (he’s now deceased) was accused of impregnating more than a hundred young women and made them claim for the monthly checks which was about 600 a month. ”

    wow… that’s what happen when democrats promise plenty of social welfare.

    in florida, we also have a Tenant based ( housing subsidy) section 8 to low income families. probably about $ 650.00 a month towards rent. before, it was common to find 5 families in one big home rented for $1500.

    glad you’re back..

  26. d’uh

    it doesn’t matter if it is the republicans or democrats who promised the social welfare.

    in that example, the man was simple a benefits cheat who saw a loophole in the system kaya nandaya siya.

    what you should do is tighten the loopholes so that social welfare will only be for those who really need it.

    it’s so unchristian naman to remove social welfare dahil may natutulungan talaga yang mga programs na yan.

  27. “…was accused of impregnating more than a hundred young women and made them claim for the monthly checks which was about 600 a month. ”

    Wow. Ain’t the guy something?

    The likes of Lou Salvador, Ramon Revilla, and Erap would have the equvalent of an SBA-accredited operation.

  28. nash,

    of course naman, i support some social welfare. the problem of some social program is too weak that many of those people become so dependent and take advantage of the system.

    in miami , 1999. plenty of healthcare providers were charge of fraud , charging medicare and medicaid recipients for healthcare services that were medically unnecessary. at that time, automation in the healthcare industry were a little slower than the abusive counterpart.
    The consequence of giving for all is not good after all. The budget surplus was wasted not only to finance the IRAQ war but also to others…

    Teaching them how to fish? hmmmmnnn. I’d rather go back to Philippines and help my own kind. USA has no reason why one cannot find opportunity. I think for me, that’s being lazy. Maybe they should start manufacturing goods and products so that their jobs will not go to china?

    maybe they should legalize the illegal filipinos who are willing to work and contribute the system? maybe they should legalize the mexicans who are willing to pick their, apples, oranges and harvest their corn for ethanol production?

    you know what nash… i’m going to the beach. am supposed to go on a cruise. but damn IKE.

    i am starting to hate politics.

  29. “aybe they should legalize the illegal filipinos who are willing to work and contribute the system? maybe they should legalize the mexicans who are willing to pick their, apples, oranges and harvest their corn for ethanol production?”

    vote democrat then.

  30. it’s the republicans who have been in power for 8 years, hwag mong sabihing clinton’s budget surplus was spent by democrats?

    😀

  31. Most of the budget surplus went to finance the war in Afghanistan and Iraq. Which is to say the military-industrial complex, aka friends of Bush-Cheney.

  32. I just read a copy of AARP newsletter, one couple from Oregon was looking for primary care physician (PCP) for two months, while in the interim they were driving 160 miles one way to see their old PCP for refill of prescriptions. Another patient was trying to look for a PCP so that her mole would be operated on ( PCP’s referral was needed prior to dermatologists/surgeon appointment). After six months of trying, she found a PCP. The mole turned out to be a melanoma with mets to lymph nodes!

    Socialized medicine will definitely exacerbate the health care problems. MD’s are trying to limit medicare and medicaid patients due to below cost reimbursements. This is happening in all corners of USA. Socialized medicine will bring down the health care system in this superpower country.

  33. US Social Welfare Reform: Republican side.( smiling)

    The Republican bill bore a superficial resemblance to what Clinton proposed, so both sides were able to claim credit for reforming welfare. But the changes in welfare were largely based on the Republican plan.

    It was the economy, not Clinton.
    http://www.welfareacademy.org/pubs/welfare/four_yea.shtml

    Republican teaching How to Fish: Republican attempts to increase the amount of hours that recipients should be required to work. Keyword: REQUIRED hours of work.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_reform

    Let them eat values – Republican welfare reform
    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1295/is_n1_v59/ai_16038797

    CSS Social Welfare History in youtube:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVWMVfL_sCs

  34. cat,

    i just shipped a package with P.I. as the designated country of destination and it reached the consignee. but as i said, this is small stuff. – and it proves my point that i get all these flak because P.I. is an anachronism, out of style and has derogatory meaning, as some nationalists have noted, and I am out of the loop.

    jcc,
    I just checked USPS hours ago, it is not PI but Philippines. they don’t put republic, neither do they do they abbreviate the name of the country. code is 688.

    Check this link to the USPS index of countries and localities. i hate pasting link but this is one to prove you that PI is a thing of the past.

    http://pe.usps.gov/text/imm/immctry.htm

    i just watched NCIS (Naval criminal investigatigative services) episode where the marines supposed to be suspected were deployed in the PHILIPPINES. PI was not used.

    even n Jeopardy where questions concerned about Phils. they don’t use PI. PI now is interpreted to mean Private Investigator.

  35. “Socialized medicine will bring down the health care system in this superpower country.”

    what if you can’t afford to go to the doctor? what now?

  36. @c at

    hmm, election season na nga, dapat talagang i-double check itong mga assertions…

    baka jcc is living in the rip roaring 30s! he might even know mlq3’s grandfather personally

    😀

  37. wow… that’s what happen when democrats promise plenty of social welfare.

    The WIC program and the SSI were pre-Clinton administration.

    The streamlining of the eligibility requirements and the coverage were during his period to cut down on abuses.

    I am not a Democrat nor a Republican but i know when he left, there’s a lot of money in the SS funds.

  38. the cat,

    yes it was a good move for clinton but bad for me when i was in the healthcare industry. i and many of my filipino friends were laid off., maybe about 60% of healthcare work force were forced to change career. that was PPS. </blockquote.

    You’re always exaggerating. What healthcare personnel are you talking about? i was in the healthcare industry too with our nursing registry during that time.

    It was during this time when the ratio of nurse to patient was strictly implemented in hospitals thus creating a big opportunity for nurses to come as greencardholders.

    Before the implementation, only certified nursing assistants were used to substitute for registered nurses.

    if you’re talking about physical therapists, they do not even constitute 1 per cent of the healthcare industry.

  39. RP OR PI, PLACE YOUR BET ! !

    We Filipinos are very unique people, and the word unique is not used in a pejorative sense, neither it is used to make use proud.

    We are unique because we have our nationalists who have not strayed outside the country and thus their concept of the outside world is seen mostly from newspapers, internet, radio and television. And nationalists who strayed outside the country but would they would peer at the same glass cage peered through the inside nationalists, though this is not true in every case.

    We have people who were discomforted with the use of P.I. to mean Philippines because aside from the fact that it was not the official designation of the Philippines, it conjures up the image of “colonial people” subjugated for hundred years by the Spaniards, then by the Americans and the Japanese for lesser number of years as the Spaniards.

    We would be rather have our country named or called Philippines of RP for Republic of the Philippines, because it implies sovereignty.

    I have left the Philippines in 2000 and in 2005, I put up a small business. People come to my business place from different parts of the world because America is a melting pot of all races. The normal exchange after pleasantries had been fired is where are you from? When I said Philippines, their eyes would lit up and they would say: “Ah yes, Imelda, the woman with 1,000 shoes; and the other variety of response is Oh yes, Mr. Marcos, did he really steal money from the people and ordered what’s the senator’s name? Murdered? – Aquino, I answered and they would say, yes, did he?

    In the face of those inquiries I only managed to smile, and I would not answer those inquiries and they would understand my silence and we go back to discuss the issues that brought them to my business place in the first place.

    This is the concept of the international community about the Republic of the Philippines, the official name of the Philippines. Yes, people would not see the vestiges of colonialism in this name, but it is associated with a far more insidious meaning, more hideous, more sinister, and more embarrassing. It is associated with “kleptocracy and a murderous regime”.

    Next time people come to my place , I suppose I get my cue from leytenian and tell my customers that I came from Philippine Island. It really sounds exotic, and people might think it is entirely different from the Philippines. They might not even think that there is colonial undertone in this name unless they are old enough to study the history of the Philippine Island – but I would be happy to assume the risk of being described as colonial slave but proud because he was able to severe that bondage from his colonial master, rather than be perceived as a citizen of a sovereign state under bondage of local murderous tyrants and kleptocrat masters. 🙂 🙂

  40. “what if you can’t afford to go to the doctor? what now?”…nash

    Well, there are several options, indigents patients can go to public hospitals or clinics, many outpatient free clinics and other ngo organized clinics.

    However, the best thing to do is make health insurance affordable to everyone and subsidized those who can’t really afford the cost of healthcare….not socialized medicine wherein we as patients have no choice.

    In the present system, there are so many health insurance with so many megabuck-paid CEOs, EEOs and so many paper pusher OO’s who do nothing for the patient but dada nang dada, wala namang silbi sa patient care. Streamline the health care system, remove all those useless excutives/managers and increase the number of actual healthcare personnel, this will help solve most of the problems.

  41. The cat,

    of course you made your point in terms of nursing ratio with patients… but that’s only in california and some states. i’m in florida … I have done many consulting work to implement such ratio( nursing to patient) in the East…but it is still not fully implemented yet because of the growing numbers of baby boomers, imbalance of supply and demand of professionals, and other private insurance providers- who have lured some medicare recipients to change their current medicare plan to HMO or managed care.

    I’m no longer in healthcare management or consulting but until now healthcare professionals are complaining because the ratio only applies to medicare Part A, and Part B. ( but not implemented by most hospitals in the East).Worst plenty of baby boomers have changed their medicare policy to HMO or managed care plan. This privately manage entity requires provider participation without taking consideration, the Ratio you mention. It’s actually a provider for volumes not quality. Fee for service for an HMO and managed care patients are less than 50 bucks.Doctor’s office need to have 5 patients in an hour to cover all his/her expenses. Ratio is not applicable to outpatient services, in-patient services, skilled nursing facilities, walk-in clinics and many more…

    I really don’t know what’s going to happen with socialize medicine or universal healthcare.. it doesn’t sound good to me if I get sick.

  42. JCC,

    Maybe some will be more understanding to you if you paste a link of that postal service where the Philippines is listed as P.I.

  43. Pilipinoparin,

    The problem in healthcare management is managing issues from the top without listening the bottom- professional nurses, doctors, therapists, social worker, and case manager.

    The imbalance of information has made private entities to take advantage of the system. That’s why I like the republican approach of free market and allow competition for quality. It will not increase taxation to private corporation (for example in the healthcare industry) This way employer will have extra cash to supplement empoyee’s health benefits. Obama will increase tax and he is not very specific about it. OK.. Sure but not during the time of crisis.
    Cash is King for corporation to grow and employ more people to supplement healthcare benefits. Imagine the multiplier effect of employment. There’s something wrong with Obama. That’s what happen when experience is lacking… lol

  44. ‘Maybe some will be more understanding to you if you paste a link of that postal service where the Philippines is listed as P.I.”

    Maybe it will help, but that’s not the point. In my opinion, I don’t care what UPS, Google, Fed Ex call our country in their website. To me it is a matter of official name which is RP and most important is the implication and how we got this official name. Passing history subjects or knowing the dates, names and places in RP is not very important, it is the implications of these things to our culture and dignity which should be taught by the teachers and be assimilated by the students especially the Filipinos. Hindi puro kabisote lamang, hindi alam ang kahulugan sa ating cultura at pagka-Filipino. That’s my opinion, others maybe have different opinion.

  45. to the cat,

    sorry about before.. please forget our little fight and misunderstanding. I think we can learn from each other.

    keep your info coming.. we can exchange ideas here. who knows … what we talked about may provide solutions or some kind of model to Philippines problem.

    for others: please check cvj’s proposal on social welfare.
    http://cvjugo.blogspot.com/2008/08/framework-for-making-food-subsidies.html

    any ideas in healthy atmosphere are more productive.

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