Let’s begin with a quote from the Vice-President, not usually considered an authority on anything, but who knows his public pulse. In the news article Inquiries barred by SC ruling?, which focuses on the Palace’s emerging effort to limit public criticism by bringing up the possibility of the Supreme Court citing people by contempt (a dangerous road, considering even lawyers are incensed: can you imagine hundreds or even thousands all being jailed for contempt of court?), the Veep was quoted as saying:
Vice President Noli de Castro urged those who disagree with the Supreme Court to respect and accept the ruling.
“Kapag hindi pa natin ginalang ang decision ng Supreme Court, sino ang igagalang ninyo after the Supreme Court?” he said in an ambush interview at the Philippine National Police Academy graduation rites in Silang, Cavite.
And really, this is the crux of the problem. Because, indeed, if the Supremes have disgraced themselves then the unthinkable has to be confronted, and that is, going back to the drawing board. But that point hasn’t been reached, at least, not just yet: at the very least it would have to wait until the Supremes have received a motion for reconsideration and then denied it with finality; or possibly, even further down the line when the 9-6 majority continues to hold even in cases, say, like another People’s Initiative scheme. Then the country would no longer be able to ignore the reality of a Puppet Court.
Unless of course, without waiting for a Puppet Court to hand down one decision after another, the justices in the minority, led by their chief, decide to simply resign if the court upholds Neri v. Senate. That would be unprecedented; but would it be wise? It would only give the President a free hand to appoint not just six, but seven Justices in one fell swoop. But then again it would have been an act of self-preservation for the resigned Justices.
Would we then be faced with a situation more similar to the Japanese Occupation than even, say, Martial Law? Though at the heart of the New Society were ideas first explored during the Japanese Occupation.
Even when the Supreme Court disgraced itself (while saving the jobs of its members) by adorning the New Society with “a color of constitutionality,” the critics of Marcos still went to the Supremes to argue their cases, even though they weren’t particularly confident of a fair hearing. It was just that court remained one of the few venues where people could exercise a semblance of free speech. There was still a residual respect for the high court, but I have to wonder if it was an institutional respect or respect for its membership; just as during the Japanese Occupation the Supreme Court tried to do as little work as possible, knowing it was viewed as just another illegitimate institution of a government viewed as illegitimate by the people.
But then the public didn’t scoff at Jose Yulo, who assumed the position of Chief Justice after the legitimate Chief Justice, Jose Abad Santos, was executed by the Japanese, the way the public scoffed Chief Justice Enrique Fernando during the Marcos years. But in the end when the entire Marcosian apparatus came crashing down the Supreme Court he’d appointed went with him. The Japanese Occupation and Martial Law still remain national traumas within living memory: and with continuing ill-effects as Alfonso Aluit once pointed out.
But then, what do you do, Puppet Court or no? For example, De Venecia son seeks SC help over wiretapping. And while Manuel Buencamino, in his column Play them loud, can properly distinguish between the Garci tapes and those Sen. Juan Ponce Enrile has in his pocket -and which has led JDV3 to run to the Supremes with a Habeas Data petition- the long and short of it is that the reason people have to run to the Supremes is they’re the court of last resort -but what happens when resorting to that court can only hasten not justice, but the closing of a government trap?
Which brings us back to the Vice-President. Who -or what- would be left to respect, once respect for the high court is gone? Which explains why disappointment in certain quarters -and I am specifically referring not to critics of the President, but those who believed that the President’s sins of omission or commission, as alleged by her critics, could be amply attended to by institutional means, whether Congress or the courts- is running so deep, and why the response, as invoked by Fr. Bernas (see link below) is basically this: storm the high court at Padre Faura with prayers, of the legal and spiritual kind.
And why great pains are being taken to dissect the high court’s ruling, to point out the Supremes’ folly, and to remind them that once respect for them is lost -what, indeed, will be left?
Let’s move on to a portion of the decision, before tackling what some lawyers told me yesterday. Here is the portion from the main decision as written by the ponente, Justice Teresita Leonardo de Castro:
The above cases, especially, Nixon, In Re Sealed Case and Judicial Watch, somehow provide the elements of presidential communications privilege, to wit:
1) The protected communication must relate to a “quintessential and non-delegable presidential power.”
2) The communication must be authored or “solicited and received” by a close advisor of the President or the President himself. The judicial test is that an advisor must be in “operational proximity” with the President.
3) The presidential communications privilege remains a qualified privilege that may be overcome by a showing of adequate need, such that the information sought “likely contains important evidence” and by the unavailability of the information elsewhere by an appropriate investigating authority.
In the case at bar, Executive Secretary Ermita premised his claim of executive privilege on the ground that the communications elicited by the three (3) questions “fall under conversation and correspondence between the President and public officials” necessary in “her executive and policy decision-making process” and, that “the information sought to be disclosed might impair our diplomatic as well as economic relations with the People’s Republic of China.” Simply put, the bases are presidential communications privilege and executive privilege on matters relating to diplomacy or foreign relations.
Using the above elements, we are convinced that, indeed, the communications elicited by the three (3) questions are covered by the presidential communications privilege. First, the communications relate to a “quintessential and non-delegable power” of the President, i.e. the power to enter into an executive agreement with other countries. This authority of the President to enter into executive agreements without the concurrence of the Legislature has traditionally been recognized in Philippine jurisprudence. Second, the communications are “received” by a close advisor of the President. Under the “operational proximity” test, petitioner can be considered a close advisor, being a member of President Arroyo’s cabinet. And third, there is no adequate showing of a compelling need that would justify the limitation of the privilege and of the unavailability of the information elsewhere by an appropriate investigating authority.
The third element deserves a lengthy discussion.
United States. v. Nixon held that a claim of executive privilege is subject to balancing against other interest. In other words, confidentiality in executive privilege is not absolutely protected by the Constitution. The U.S. Court held:
[N]either the doctrine of separation of powers, nor the need for confidentiality of high-level communications, without more, can sustain an absolute, unqualified Presidential privilege of immunity from judicial process under all circumstances.
The foregoing is consistent with the earlier case of Nixon vs. Sirica, where it was held that presidential communications privilege are presumptively privileged and that the presumption can be overcome only by mere showing of public need by the branch seeking access to conversations. The courts are enjoined to resolve the competing interests of the political branches of the government “in the manner that preserves the essential functions of each Branch.” Here, the record is bereft of any categorical explanation from respondent Committees to show a compelling or citical need for the answers to the three (3) questions in the enactment of a law. Instead, the questions veer more towards the exercise of the legislative oversight function under Section 22 of Article VI rather than Section 21 of the same Article. Senate v. Ermita ruled that the “the oversight function of Congress may be facilitated by compulsory process only to the extent that it is performed in pursuit of legislation.” It is conceded that it is difficult to draw the line between an inquiry in aid of legislation and an inquiry in the exercise of oversight function of Congress. In this regard, much will depend on the content of the questions and the manner the inquiry is conducted.
Respondent Committees argue that a claim of executive privilege does not guard against a possible disclosure of a crime or wrongdoing. We see no dispute on this. It is settled in United States v. Nixon[48] that “demonstrated, specific need for evidence in pending criminal trial” outweighs the President’s “generalized interest in confidentiality.” However, the present case’s distinction with the Nixon case is very evident. In Nixon, there is a pending criminal proceeding where the information is requested and it is the demands of due process of law and the fair administration of criminal justice that the information be disclosed. This is the reason why the U.S. Court was quick to “limit the scope of its decision.” It stressed that it is “not concerned here with the balance between the President’s generalized interest in confidentiality x x x and congressional demands for information.” Unlike in Nixon, the information here is elicited, not in a criminal proceeding, but in a legislative inquiry. In this regard, Senate v. Ermita stressed that the validity of the claim of executive privilege depends not only on the ground invoked but, also, the procedural setting or the context in which the claim is made. Furthermore, in Nixon, the President did not interpose any claim of need to protect military, diplomatic or sensitive national security secrets. In the present case, Executive Secretary Ermita categorically claims executive privilege on the grounds of presidential communications privilege in relation to her executive and policy decision-making process and diplomatic secrets.
At yesterday’s Mass for Cory Aquino at the Ateneo Rockwell, I asked lawyer Carlos Medina (who was part of the Senate’s legal team and was part of One Voice’s legal team) his views and to the best of my understanding, he believed the portion above was the most objectionable part of the entire decision.
In the past, executive privilege applied to the President and individuals consulted by the President. When invoking executive privilege, the burden of proof was on the one invoking the privilege, and not on those making inquiries resulting in the invoking of privilege; the decision reverses things and now puts the burden of proof on those making inquiries, therefore turning what was once something that could only be rarely invoked and with difficulty, at that, into a shroud of secrecy almost impossible to pierce.
Before the decision, it would have been, “I invoke executive privilege, because what you want me to tell you, deserves to be superdupertopsecret because of reason A, B, C…” with reasons A, B, and C subject to strict limits on their appropriateness.
After the decision, it becomes “Tell me why I should answer you when everything is presumed to be covered by executive privilege so tell me your reasons A, B, and C and I’ll see if I think your reasons justify my giving you an answer.”
It turns the assumptions that executive privilege is exactly that, a privilege, and one that’s strictly circumscribed, on its head.
Besides that, the privilege once applied to two people: the President and whoever talked directly to the President, about confidential matters; the decision expands coverage to include those with “proximity” to the President -including when those enjoying that proximity consult each other, in turn, on matters involving the President.
Before the decision, it would have been, “I invoke executive privilege, because what the President and I talked about on the phone is superdupertopsecret.” After the decision, it becomes, “I invoke executive privilege because what Sec. A and myself, Sec. B, talked about had something to do with the President, although neither of us were talking to the President at the time, nonetheless, since it was about her, it’s superdupertopsecret.”
smoke, in her blog, noticed this, too:
All this conclusion does is bolster the fact that Neri can claim privilege. But that was never at issue. The issue is whether the claim is justified. Again, the justifiability of the claim seems to have been taken for granted.
The third conclusion is the linchpin, and it is based on the fact that
“The case of Senate v. Ermita only requires that an allegation be made “whether the information demanded involves military or diplomatic secrets, closed-door Cabinet meetings, etc.” The particular ground must only be specified. The enumeration is not even intended to be comprehensive.”
In other words, the claim actually need not be justified. In cases where the Senate thinks the claim is unjustified, it can take the case to the SC. But that remedy is, in fact, illusory since, when it receives the case, all the SC will look for is whether the allegation was properly made – it won’t even look into the reasonableness of the claim. For instance, Midas Marquez – the Court’s spokesman – is now emphasizing that the reason the Court ruled for Neri is actually because the Senate was unable to show any compelling need for the information. This line of reasoning implies that if a need was shown, the privilege would have been denied. BUT that implication is contradictory to what the Court itself said when it declared that a mere allegation of privilege, properly made, is all that is needed. How can any enumeration of “compelling need” be validated without measuring those claims against the justifications for keeping the privilege intact? How can you say that the justifications for disclosure are more ‘compelling’ than the justifications for secrecy when the secrecy need not even be justified?
That all looks kinda circular to me.
A perfect trap!
The decision also closes off executive agreements from public scrutiny, because they become essentially immune to legislative inquiry.
And the decision essentially defines the ability of Congress to inquire so narrowly as to make oversight over the executive impossible; and that includes finding probable cause for prosecuting executive officials (or even the President) in the courts. For the Supreme Court says that while indeed, a limit on executive privilege is that it can’t be invoked to cover up a crime, it says the the only place that invocation won’t work is before the courts -which ignores how things can even get to court, if nothing fishy can be uncovered in the first place.
The whole thing makes a news story like this, otherwise heartening, disheartening: House body OKs bill facilitating access to state information.
Yesterday and today’s Inquirer editorials focus on the Supreme Court and its decision in Neri v. Senate Committee. Yesterday’s editorial, Divided court, began by pointing out,
We join the many who find the majority decision to be gravely disappointing. In striking a balance between the competing interests of two coordinate branches of government, the high court in Neri v Senate Committee et al seems to have decided to enable an Executive department with an inglorious record of evading accountability. That record includes the remains of Executive Order 464, the “ashes” of which, Justice Conchita Carpio Morales wryly noted in her dissenting opinion, “have since fertilized the legal landscape on presidential secrecy.”
The editorial went on to focus, first, on the dissenting opinions and what they argued were not at stake:
In his exhaustive and magisterial dissent, Chief Justice Reynato Puno devoted several pages to prove that the three questions are pertinent to the legislative inquiry the three Senate committees are conducting and to actual bills pending in the Senate. “The three assailed questions seek information on how and why the NBN-ZTE contract–an international agreement embodying a foreign loan for the undertaking of the NBN Project–was consummated,” he reasoned. Declaring the three questions as covered by executive privilege, therefore, is to effectively undermine the work of legislation.
Justice Antonio Carpio, in his separate opinion, also makes short work of the three questions: These, “if answered by petitioner, will not disclose confidential Presidential communications. Neither will answering the questions disclose diplomatic secrets. Counsel for petitioner admitted this during the oral arguments …”
We find it of no small import that, in a landmark case (a case of first impression, as Puno noted) where alleged diplomatic reasons are used to justify the exercise of the so-called presidential communications privilege, Neri signally failed to support his argument that the fate of our diplomatic relations with China was in fact at stake.
The editorial was referring to Bautista the Hutt’s inability to explain any diplomatic wrinkles that might arise from pursing the line of questioning intended by the Senate. The editorial then proceeded to focus on the main decision and its flaws (referring to the passage from the decision I reproduced above, in the context of another lawyer’s views on the decision):
Strip the ponencia written by Justice Teresita Leonardo de Castro down to its basics, and we find that it can be used to justify wrongdoing.
The three Senate committees, the majority decision notes, “argue that a claim of executive privilege does not guard against a possible disclosure of a crime or wrongdoing. We see no dispute on this.” But the decision then draws what seems to us to be an unnecessary but most consequential contrast between the Neri petition and the landmark US v Nixon case. “Unlike in Nixon, the information here is elicited, not in a criminal proceeding, but in a legislative inquiry.”
What do our honorable justices mean? That when information about an alleged crime is elicited in a legislative inquiry, the claim of executive privilege can be used to make the information irrelevant? This strikes us as absurd. What are our lawmakers to do, if evidence of criminal activity surfaces during an inquiry in aid of legislation? Look the other way? Unfairly as it may seem, the ruling in Neri v Senate Committee et al will be summed up by many of our most law-abiding citizens as suggesting exactly that.
The majority decision makes much of the assertion that the “petitioner is not an unwilling witness.” That seems to us to privilege Neri’s one day of testimony, as against the numerous other instances when he failed to honor the Senate’s invitation. Again, context tells us that this did not occur by happenstance; the Arroyo administration, by the admission of its own officials, has helped potential witnesses to avoid the Senate hearings on the NBN deal.
And yet today’s editorial, Not absolute, says hope springs eternal and while slim, there’s always a chance the Supreme Court, upon a motion for reconsideration, may indeed reconsider (as Fr. Joaquin Bernas, S.J. pointed out). On what basis? The editorial says,
Allow us to hazard a guess. In his lengthy dissenting opinion, Chief Justice Reynato Puno summed up the doctrine of executive privilege as the “tension between disclosure and secrecy in a democracy.” If we accept this phrasing of the problem, then our prayer is that enough justices in the majority may be moved, on reconsideration, to favor disclosure over secrecy.
That, it seems to us, is what this landmark case on the limits of executive privilege amounts to: A decision, by the justices of the high court, about which is more important, which is more in keeping with the public interest, at this particular juncture in our history.
There is no question that the Executive enjoys what is called the presidential communications privilege. In her dissent, Justice Conchita Carpio Morales disposed of the matter succinctly. “Underlying the presidential communications privilege is the public interest in enhancing the quality of presidential decision-making. As the Court held in the same case of Senate vs Ermita, ‘A President and those who assist him must be free to explore alternatives in the process of shaping policies and making decisions and to do so in a way many would be unwilling to express except privately.'” (It bears noting that Carpio Morales wrote the 14-0 ruling in Senate vs Ermita.)
This privilege, however, is not absolute.
There is also no question that the Executive enjoys what is called the diplomatic, military or state secrets privilege. In his dissent, Puno noted that these content-based categories of executive privilege are subject to judicial determination, “without forcing a disclosure [he quotes from the jurisprudence] of the very thing the privilege is designed to protect.” But again, this privilege is not absolute.
(It bears noting that Romulo Neri’s inclusion of “impairment of economic relations” was dismissed by Justice Antonio Carpio, in his separate opinion, as “not even a recognized ground” for the claim of executive privilege, and that Neri’s inclusion of “military matters” was derided by Carpio Morales as a mere afterthought, and therefore “need not be seriously entertained.”)
The editorial then tackles the proposal made by the Chief Justice at the time of the oral arguments on the case, and says that while it tried to head off a constitutional crisis, the decision, unless reconsidered, makes one inevitable:
The proposed compromise made a virtue of necessity.
Unfortunately, the majority position that ended up deciding the case may have only rendered the very constitutional crisis the justices sought to avert inevitable. Why? In favoring the Executive’s claim of secrecy, the Supreme Court pushed the Senate into an untenable position. Essentially, the ruling in Neri vs Senate Committee asks the Senate not to probe evidence of criminal activity that surfaces in a legislative inquiry if the Executive may be implicated. How can the Senate possibly acquiesce?
In the end, the majority decision in Neri vs Senate Committee strikes us as being based on a fundamental mistake: It takes the Executive at its word… Today, when the choice is between disclosure and secrecy, can we still afford to give this Executive the benefit of the doubt?
See the Malaya editorial, Promoting concealment of wrongdoing, too.
Lawyer Jose C. Sison, in his Philippine Star column “External and internal justice” (useless linking to it, because the paper’s site doesn’t have permanent links), helpfully put in bold the important parts of his column and that’s what I’m reproducing below:
In other words Neri won because the justices perceived that his position is the lesser of two evils…
…But at least some facts have already been established by the SC in this case that brought us nearer the truth.
Thus the SC found that on April 21, 2007, the Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) entered into a contract with Zhing Xing Telecommunications Equipment (ZTE) for the supply of equipment and services for the National Broadband Network (NBN) Project in the amount of US $329,481,290 (approximately P16 billion) to be financed by the People’s Republic of China; that on September 26, 2007, Neri testified for 11 hours and disclosed: that then COMELEC Chairman Benjamin Abalos offered him P200 million in exchange for his approval of the NBN project; that he informed President Arroyo about the bribery attempt and that she instructed him not to accept the bribe; that originally the project was under a Build Operate Transfer (BOT) or any similar scheme, but when the contract was signed it was already by means of a loan from China although he was not privy to the changes anymore; that he had further discussions with the President regarding the bribery scandal involving high Government officials but could not divulge them anymore on the ground that they are covered by executive privilege.
If these facts are woven into the publicly known and openly admitted events… then the conclusion is quite clear and indubitable that some “katiwalian” amounting to a crime or violation of the Anti-Graft Law has been committed by the named officials and other brokers still to be positively identified.
And this is the vulnerable aspect of the decision… It still recognizes executive privilege when the Congress has already acquired substantial evidence that the information requested concerns criminal wrongdoing by public officials and other influential persons…
…”Law” here refers to “man-made rules and methods by which society compels or restrains actions of its members; the general rule of external human action enforced by a sovereign political authority”. Conformity of our actions to this law serves the ends of what we call external justice only.
…a broader all embracing law that treats of what is right and wrong or distinguishes between good and evil. If our will and actions conform to this law we have what is known as internal justice.
…internal justice is the object of morality while external justice is the object of jurisprudence or the science of giving a wise interpretation to man made laws and making a just application of them in all cases as they arise. Obviously internal justice is more important in the search for truth because our duty here is dictated by conscience unlike external justice where the duty is dictated by imperfect human laws. A combination of both internal and external justice is of course the best…
Another lawyer, Florin T. Hilbay, 1999 Bar Topnotcher and a professor of law, in When law is politics says:
…the Supreme Court’s decision in Neri v Senate… I believe is deeply flawed for a host of reasons: by default, President Macapagal-Arroyo (or her alter ego) has minimal proprietary rights over information generated in the exercise of her public functions; the questions the Senate asked can barely be said to have an impact on the President as a private person and on national security or foreign affairs; and the need of the public to elicit concrete information on allegations of office-related crimes involving high public officials surely trumps any speculative defense.
The 1987 Constitution may be insanely verbose, but its effusiveness is narrowly focused on the need to have a vibrant speech environment and on preventing misuse of public office. By now we ought to realize that behind claims to privileged information, done in the name of the public, is usually a crook who wouldn’t show his (or her) dirty hands. Citizens have the right to raise their eyebrows at every invocation of “national interest” or “official privilege” because rights claimed in the name of the public have almost always been exercised at its expense.
The Neri v Senate decision is all the more unfortunate considering that it effectively suppresses information crucial to opinion-formation essential to citizen feedback, at a time when it is most needed. What the Court has done is to discount from the public sphere knowledge that may be used by citizens in deciding whether they should use the force of public opinion to force Romulo Neri and/or GMA to resign, or to impeach her, or to prosecute Benjamin Abalos and Jose Miguel Arroyo; or in concluding that Jun Lozada is a fraud and his statements are hogwash. The wisdom of the masses doesn’t come cheap; it is a social capital available only when the marketplace of ideas is free. Today the Court engages in reverse expropriation, taking what is otherwise public property and preventing citizens from treading a path that might lead to enlightened public opinion.
Among bloggers, [email protected] says lawyers should weigh in but laymen should, too; a lawyer, Red’s Herring, does weigh in, pointing out the Supremes have already neutered impeachment:
In an earlier entry, I have submitted that the Supreme Court in Francisco, Jr. v. House of Representatives has practically crippled the impeachment process by adopting the Bernasian reading of “initiate” under Article XI, Section 3 of the Constitution in lieu of the interpretation of the House of Representatives, and taking up what it supposed as its “activist” role, declared such interpretation of a coordinate branch, contained in the House Impeachment Rules, unconstitutional. Under the impeachment gun then was Hilario Davide, Jr. and so the robed gang huddled together and quite expectedly hailed their Chief – at the expense of the Constitution. Francisco, I concluded, is therefore the father of Lozano and Pulido.
Now, Senate v. Ermita can also say, “Here, have a cigar, we have sired a son … in Neri v. Senate Committee.”
Because the father had misspoken, the son lost its way, and unabashedly acknowledged being befuddled.
…Very clearly, executive privilege can only be invoked by way of exception. So when the executive officials fail to show that the privilege is “of such high degree as to outweigh the public interest,” as Senate v. Ermita ruling describes it, in the disclosure of the supposedly privileged information, congressional oversight, as a general rule, will trump an appeal to the supposed privilege. In that event, contumacious defiance and refusal to disclose the information sought or needed by Congress for legislative purposes renders the withholding official liable to its contempt process and the attendant punitive measures. Indeed, Congress, acting through its committees, need not rely upon the all-too-measured judicial pace to exercise the ultimate power of oversight and thereupon employ the necessary enforcement tools.
Non-lawyers Strawberry Fields Forever and Scarlet Sky and Ricelander’s Blog are aghast. The Marocharim Experiment calls for resistance. Dean Jorge Bocobo over at Philippine Commentary is very excited over the fact that Justice Corona (of the spouse who signed that manifesto in support of the President fame) is still taking his doctorate in law while already serving on the bench.
Speaking of Cory Aquino, a beautiful passage in Scriptorium:
With her persevering courage, born of prayer and piety, she helped lead us of the Marcos kleptocracy amid coups and crises and the infighting within her coalition; and considering that Aquino for a time (1986-1987) had revolutionary powers exceeding even those of Marcos himself and yet did not abuse them, her example of self-control and liceity makes her a steadfast pillar of Philippine reformism.
Admittedly, the Aquino administration had its share of serious problems, but her achievements are too strongly buttressed by the facts of history to collapse from administrative or other imperfections. Even if she erred in Edsa Dos–as I think she did not (for there is nothing illicit in removing a corrupt leader who abused the Constitution, and the evil of the next one can be blamed on herself alone)–it was through sincere desire for reform and no other. This is indeed well-known to the Autocracy, hence its illegal effort to block Aquino from joining the protest of the ill-fated marines in Fort Bonifacio; for nothing else would have stopped her.
Therefore the news of her illness comes as a terrible shock. Corazon Aquino is a woman of faith and valor, a Philippine ashet chayil in the line of Deborah, Matilda and Dorothy Day who even now leads the cause of reform; she has earned not only our gratitude but our enduring love; and so the nation owes her all the prayer and support we can muster.
My column yesterday was Testimonial of a matriarch.
etong si pimentel talaga mahilig sa tsismis. sabi ko nga mas maganda sa kanya magshowbiz na lang at bagay sa kanya kaysa maging senador. ulyanin na rin kasi eh.
It is a very serious thing for the Supreme Court to issue a a decision that is proven “wrong” by subsequent events. I am sure the core of those nine justices will circle the wagons knowing that if some thing breaks in the case and they are exposed as co-conspirators in a hideous crime of obstruction of justice, for example if the Chinese Communist Party decides they can sacrifice Yu Yong for the sake of a genuinely respectful and fruitful long term relationship with the Philippines, God help them and even their dogs and cats at home.
Benigno,
Don’t worry. I am not looking for disciples. Unlike you mate.
Benigno,
Cheers to your results! Getrealphilippines.com (plug).
Decisions can always be questioned no matter what, since there will always be parties who are disadvantaged by any ruling. But under the rudiments of a constitutional democracy, such can only be done or initiated within the parameters of the legal framework established constitutionally (public reasonability). Thus, the MBC, some senators, etc., if they believe they have a valid point, must question rulings which they find disadvantageous to the public under the ambit of the court, not outside. Outside, that would be anarchy. Outside, that would be utopian. Democracy is bad, but we have to respect our institutions. The alternatives to constitutional and legal frameworks are unacceptable and supremely irrational. We have to believe in our legal system, however suspicious. Otherwise, some thirsty and power hungry beasts will ruin our just institutions. For now, it matters to us that we can say things for and against the system – that’s what democracy is about, and only that. Just as there is a limit to the power of any government, there’s also a limit to our own reasons, however brilliant.
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I am convinced though that it’s the house that needs to be abolished not the senate regardless of Neri.
OJT?
Motion For Reconsideration = Oversized brown envelopes, plain & simple.
“The Senate must be abolished!
Lets push for a Unicameral Legislature, whose members are elected by district”
3, three idols, HA HA HA HA HA!^^^SOUND OF THUNDER^^^^
…from being the defender of the person to advocacy of the objective of the person!
CHACHACHA…..and then…GLORIA FOREVER
Hu-hu-hu-hu-hu, hikbi.
you unmask yourself, anthony s., you forced me to change my opinion of you again, now you confirmed my suspicion!
Hallelujah! at last, I’ve seen the light!
We have to believe in our legal system, however suspicious. Otherwise, some thirsty and power hungry beasts will ruin our just institutions. For now, it matters to us that we can say things for and against the system – that’s what democracy is about, and only that. – The view from nowhere
What happens when in another case the Supremes again say: This time you can’t say things for or against the system. We will tell you how to say it or when to say it.
Can you still respect the institution wherefrom the edict comes?
“oh yes im a cha cha advocate, but not paid.”
not sure if you’re not paid, anthony s., but if you are a gov’t. person you are paid by the taxes paid by the people, not from the pocket of gloria.
you have no obligation to defend her to death then work for her to rule the people forever!
Same question to VP Noli: If in another case the SC decides that media, TV, movie and similar personalities (anchormen, newscasters, actors, etc) should be disqualified from running for public office for the reason that their position provides undue advantage over those who are not so fortunate, a situation that violates the equal protection clause, igagalang mo pa ba ang decision na yan ng Supreme Court?
The recent supreme court decision, because it has been made by the supreme court, is ruled constitutional. If “you” don’t like it, then ask for reconsideration, and if that fails, then ask –fill-in-the-blanks-here— to create another constitution.
Then there is always the option of civil disobedience.
There is also benign0’s suggestion — migrate.
This thing sounds similar to pornography. Even when everyone knows pornography when they see pornography</i”, the situation remains that the US Congress is unable to wordsmith a law that does not conflict with other rights protected by the US Constitution.
Message To The Filipino People:
Mga Kababayan:
On April 5 2008, I will be celebrating my 61st Birthday.My birthday wish is for national unity, prosperity and investments for the future of our young people .
As I said in my last birthday when I officially joined the ranks of “senior citizens” ,we have to invest in the future and in the young people; it’s really time to turn over the country to them or to prepare the country for them.
It is on this new personal milestone in my life that I announce the following seven (7) initiatives dedicated to the future of the young people of this country:
1) We will continue to foster excellent relations with Church.I know the CBCP is not divided at all .There are only five bishops who are against the Arroyo administration. But five against the other 100-plus members of the CBCP is not a division.
We will honor the “Separation of the Church and State” but we will also continue to pursue “critical collaboration” with CBCP by supporting the bishops in their “social amelioration programs for the poor” with PAGCOR/PCSO funds.(applause)
2) We will continue to strengthen the Judiciary. We vow to abide with the Supreme Court decision on executive privilege legal issue and pledge to heed the calls for government’s commitment to the truth and transparency.(applause)
We will continue to appoint men and women of probity to the Supreme Court to support the gallant nine justices who supported the majority view on the executive issue.
Like my recent appointment of Associate Justice Arturo Brion ,I will continue the practice of appointing legal experts from my Cabinet and personal staff with a strong reputation for independence to the Supreme Court in the coming months. (applause)
3) We will continue to uphold civilian supremacy over the military.For the remainder of my term until I step down in 2010, the best thing we can do is encourage the military to stay focused on providing peace, order and stability.We will encourage retired military men to take out the uniforms upon their mandated retirement.I consider my four cabinet members …Secretaries Ermita, Mendoza, Ebdane and Reyes as the classic examples of ex -military men who honor civilian authority even after their retirement from the military.I will follow this great tradition with General Espaldon upon his retirement in May.(applause)
4) We will reach out to the opposition and to the independent Senate. Being a former Senator myself,I know fully well that there are “23 independent republics”in the Senate,each with its own personal agenda.
As a key process in the national reconciliation process ,I promise to reach out to the 23 senators.(applause) For example:
-I am appointing Cristina Ponce-Enrile as our Ambassador to Vatican.
-I am fully supporting the quest of Senator Miriam Defensor-Santiago as a member of the International Court of Justice.
-I am fully supporting the President of the Public Safety College,President Tingting Cojuangco in initiating much needed reforms for the College.
-I will ensure that Senator Miguel Zubiri will have a prominent leadership role in the new super party (Lakas-Kampi).
-I will listen to the party on the possibility of welcoming back Senator Legarda to the folds of Lakas-Kampi
-I will be open to the possibility of of supporting the vice presidential ambitions of Senator Bong Revilla, a very popular senator from Cavite.
-Being a senior citizen myself ,I will vigorously support Senator Ed Angara in all his “senior citizen” programs. I will also continue to support his program to strengthen relations with Spain,our former mother country.
-I will support Senate President Manny Villar in his “Sipag Tiyaga” programs particularly in the road building programs in his ” Las Pinas/Alabang/Cavite triangle” of development.
-I am openly supporting the “Palengkenomics”program and the “Cheaper Medicines” Bill of Senator Mar Roxas, my former Trade and Industry Secretary.
5) We will support the leadership of Speaker Nograles. With the upcoming merger of the Lakas and Kampi parties,we expect stronger support of the House of Representatives in pushing for the quick passage of vital national legislative programs for the poor,the national budget and the much needed constitutional reforms.(applause)
6) We will support the computerization programs of the Comelec to definitely avoid a repeat of the electoral frauds that reportedly happened in the last Presidential election.(applause)
7) We will avert a possible rice crisis in the coming months. I have instructed Secretary Arthur Yap to have better “public visibility” of all roving NFA rice trucks to assure our people that there is ample supply of rice.
Once more ,thank you very much for all your expected birthday wishes!
I look forward to many more years of dedicated and honest public service for the good of our young people.
Help me remain a “Force for Good”!(applause)
Mabuhay!
Gloria P.
Ang galing ni F. Hilbay. That paragraph of his, excellent!
When I grow up, I want to be like him.
@anthony scalia
” i advocate a unicameral parliamentary form of government (like UK or Japan or Thailand)”
Sigurado ka bang kaya ng sikmura ng mga present batch of politicians ang open debate that is common in such a form of government?
Baka magsuntukan lang sila.
Last week, harap-harapang nag-insulto sina PM Brown and Opposition Cameron. I must say it was fun to watch!
If only for this reason, I support our shift to parliamentary, para harap-harapan sila lahat at hindi nagtatago sa executive privilege.
cheers
And on civil disobedience…. Note the government of Holland was thwarting a Dutch lawmaker Geert Wilders, a member of the Netherlands’ far-right Party for Freedom from releasing a movie. Freedom-of-expression versus public order or “good manners”.
Now the movie — FITNA — is for the world to view on YouTube after government and religious officials spent weeks trying to prevent its release. The 15-minute film splices verses from the Koran with videos of mutilated bombing victims, the World Trade Center attack, the beheading of a man by masked gunmen and an Afghan woman draped in a pleated blue burqa being shot in the head.
nash: Taiwan, too, often has riots on the parliamentary floor. And see how prosperous Taiwan is!!!!
@UP n
while I support free speech, FITNA is just another hate movie, no different from what the extreme islamists post. you watch it and come out not learning anything new…
hey… Equalizer…sounds like GMA likes Mar Roxas, but can’t tell for sure… so hasn’t GMA identified anyone yet to be next-in-Malacanang after her term expires? Or is she being statesman-like?
@nash: On FITNA… I expected “… the internet…” to indeed come to the rescue so it gets broadcasted where I can see it. I never saw any Atocha “clips”, not that I wanted to. Now I’m curious if there are any christian-generated hate-clips which advocates bloodletting.
But I know some Americans…. on the few instances I say the world has changed and how obsolete the old slogan is, I kind of sense their quiet is about “…. don’t be too sure about that.”
The slogan is “… the only good communist is a dead communist”.
Benigno:
“Now, however, there is a vast world of options for young, mobile, and employable Pinoys. There are societies out there who treat the least of its citizens (not to mention naturalised aliens) with far more dignity, respect, and fairness than Pinoy society can ever hope to achieve over the next 50 years (at least).
So why waste one’s precious time on a a society whose track record of delivering mediocre results has been more than obvious for DECADES.”
Masama talaga loob mo sa Pilipinas. Hindi ka ba pinapansin ng mga kapitbahay mo noong bata ka? 🙂
Just kidding, Benign0. Why waste time? It’s all relative. Why restore an old car, when you can buy a new one? Why buy a fixer-upper when you can buy a new house? The thing with the Philippines, like Cambodia, like Vietnam a couple of decades ago, like Indonesia today is that even a small gain in efficiency and productivity will help improve the lives of many people. It’s the more difficult things that are more rewarding. It’s not always the easy way out.
@UP n
But this film cherry picks the idiotic imams who do not represent the majority of muslims.
Personally, I think that is a big flaw with modern day islam, sino-sino nalang pwedeng maging imam like the illiterate Abu Hamza.
What it boils down to is psychopaths using religion as an excuse.
Hay naku, marami sa web, those bible belt nutters in the usa also post equally idiotic views. Remember pat robertson asking the govt to assasinate chavez?
And I can just as easily quote from the Old Testament about how you can rape and pillage your opponent…and what to do with your brother’s wife…etc..
FITNA is just a badly made pseudo-documentary.
cheers
Nash, one beautiful feature of the Parliamentary system is its Daily Question Period, where the Government is tasked by the Oppositions’ members or even by its own backbenchers in a Frank and sometimes heated Questionings and Arguments and only the Speaker to Moderate their Manners (sometimes the teenage pages can get on the way)..It is the only Venue where the Politicians have the so-called immunity, out of the House of Common doors, they are just like anyone..
Bert,
sticks and stones may break my bones, but names don’t even make me itch
tsk tsk tsk. obviously you’ve run out of arguments, you resort to the “tried and tested” ad hominem ‘gloria/government hack’ etc. eh pang ellentordesillasdotcom lang yang ganyang argumento. napaka amateurish!
mahiya ka naman kay manolo.
ang ganda ganda ng takbo ng diskusyonan dito, hahaluan mo nang ganyan. asus!
ay oo nga pala. freedom of expression under the bill of rights. sige, tuloy mo lang
halatang bagito ka pa pagdating sa constitutional amendments. panahon pa ni tita cory, meron nang efforts to amend the constitution, gawing unicameral ang legislature, among others.
sa madaling sabi, yang cha cha ay looooong overdue na. late 1980s pa yan.
halatang nagpapadala ka lang sa mga emosyon ng mga bobo at engot na opposition.
naprapraning sa gloria beyond 2010? asus!
noy, magpa-lecture ka kay joselito basilio on how the constitution is amended. eh etong si joselito basilio, mukhang freshman pa sa law school, fresh na fresh pa ang constitutional law sa kanya, kaya eksperto sya dyan
ikaw din noy, mukhang tao ka rin ng Genuine Opportunists
ako lang ata ang ‘government person’ na nagaabiso kung paano iimpeach si gloria. (so much for ‘defending her to death’)
eh ang hirap sa inyo, pinipilit pa rin ang people power eh suntok sa araw yan!
ayaw kasing maniwala na mas malakas pa ang chance ng impeachment kaysa people power
wag kang padala sa mga bobo at mga engot na opposition
vic,
no matter how you explain the beauty of the parliamentary system, no one will listen.
since nasubukan na ni Marcos ang parliamentary system, di na dapat subukan uli. yang ang takbo ng utak ng karamihan
im really surprised at the justification of having two chambers of Congress- check and balance!
look at what this ‘check and balance’ has done to the country for over 20 years.
asus, anthony, halata ka na, impeachment ka pa riyan, noy, eh ito na nga isinusulong mo ang chacha. noong isang araw lang ang kanta mo eh malabo ang chacha, o, ano ngayon…ngayon nagsasayaw ka na ng chacha, heheh.
pang-ellentordesillas nga, pero mali ba?
The Court is the last resort for the peaceful settlement of disputes. When the Court defaults then it pushes the public to reach for their guns. We might see bullets replacing rosary beads in the next people power.
manuelB: Mahal ang baril. The hakot-crowd do not have guns.
If you see a lot of folks carrying guns at the next people-march, siguradong may financier sa background. Be ready to say “…. We’ve been had!!!” three months later.
up n student:my guess is GMA will endorse Loren(IF there will be elections in 2010.)So different in appearance;so similar in character traits.
watchful eye, your question re the “supremes” prohibiting speech for or against the system, or the broadcasters like de castro may not run for president because of unfair advantage, remind me of a question in my freshman philosophy class: can God create an object so heavy that He cannot carry it? the answer of course is yes, but the whole idea is so absurd and repugnant to the very essence of a perfect God that there’s just no point contemplating on it.
i’m not suggesting a God-like perfection of the supremes. on the contrary, i hold that, as a creature of the law and constitution, the court can only act within their boundaries as right reason dictates. an unreasonable law, order or court decision, are void and without legal effect.
in the recent neri decision, the supreme court as a collegial body has articulated, as required, its reasons for its ruling. i don’t see anything in it that would “disgrace” it as an institution, as mlq3 and his friends speculate. what should disgrace it would be the inflammatory words and actions of critics whose designs were thwarted (including some of the dissenting members) and who attribute (pinoy style) all sorts of ill-motives which, to my mind, invite disobedience, disrespect of, and contempt for our judicial system.
again, i say WINNERS MUST WIN, LOSERS MUST ACCEPT THEIR FATE IN PEACE.
Bert,
“noong isang araw lang ang kanta mo eh malabo ang chacha, o, ano ngayon…ngayon nagsasayaw ka na ng chacha, heheh.”
heheh. yan ang napapala sa nadadala ng emosyon.
ang sinasabi kong malabo ang cha cha eh kung ang proposed amendment ay extension ni gloria.
eh sino ba ang naprapraning sa gloria beyond 2010? tapos ikakalat nyo pa yang paranoia na yan.
malabong ma-extend si gloria via amendment
heto ang sabi ko earlier
seems like you forgot the last phrase ‘ito lang at wala nang iba’ tagalog na nga yan di mo pa maintindihan – ang gusto kong amendments ay unicameral congress at i-lift ang restrictions on economic provisions, yun lang! wala akong sinasabing extend si gloria
ano? sasabihin mong pwedeng tumakbo si gloria para maging PM? malabong ma-amend ang constitution before 2010. kung sino man ang mananalo sa 2010, entitled na magsilbi up to 2016.
tsk tsk tsk. halatang di mo binabasa ng mabuti ang mga comments ko
“pang-ellentordesillas nga, pero mali ba?”
nakupo tinanong pa! noy, maling mali!
mahiya ka naman kay manolo!
bago ka pa sumulpot dito, advocacy ko na yang impeachment. di yan afterthought
advocacy ko rin ang anti people power. napaka moronic naman talaga ng people power, patalsikin na now na etc
dun ka na lang sana kay ellentordesillasdotcom at wag ka nang umalis dun
ay oo nga pala, freedom of expression.
sige, tuloy mo lang dito
There’s also folly in the actions of the Chief Justice; of expressing in public his disappointment in the majority decision.
As its head, why is he fueling a fire that could burn down his institution. Is he a candidate for an elective position in 2010, or what?
Good decision on the title, MLQ3! Folly on all sides. Reset?
@vic
Yes, at wednesdays, i try to catch as much of PMQ’s as possible. nakaka-aliw kasi dahil harap-harapan ang tanong…like this exchange
PM Brown: “I will not listen to someone who does not know simple arithmetic”
bwelo naman ni Babalu, este Cameron: “I know that 1 PM + 1 chancellor (refering to Brown and Darling) equals economic incompetence…”
I think the best mang-insulto so far in my short stay here is Tony Blair, now he can really throw it down.
Sayang, were we parliamentary it would be nice to see GMA’s immediate reaction to straightforward questions. You can’t do that now because of the Supremes.
@Duckvader
Baka kasi hindi pa siya Citizen sa Oz.
anthony,
mukhang paranoid nga etong si bert at ang iba pa diyan sa pag-iinsist na si gloria ay hindi aalis beyond 2010.
mukhang may mga bolang kristal ang mga eto. while sinasabi nating aalis pinipilit namang hindi. lumalabas parang sila ang ayaw talagang umalis ni gloria. kamukat-mukat mo baka nga hindi na talaga umalis dahil sa kasusulsol ng mga eto.
>>>>>>>
DAY 29
“ikaw din noy, mukhang tao ka rin ng Genuine Opportunists”
“ang ganda ganda ng takbo ng diskusyonan dito, hahaluan mo nang ganyan.”–anthony s.
hindi po ako Genuine Opportunist (ano ba iyon, tao ba ni gloria iyon?), at hindi po ako naghahalo ng ganyan, kasi wala naman po akong ibinibintang sa’yo, nagsu-suspetsa lang na baka taong-gobierno ka kasi nakakaduda ang iyong mga komentaryos.
if you are denying being a supporter of gloria tanggap ko iyon, if not then that is your prerogative…your right.
So you think I’ve run out of argument. About what…the charter change issue? You bet! It’s not my cake, it’s yours. You think it’s good, who am I to argue with that. There are advantages and there are disadvantages in all forms of governments, but that’s not my point in my opposing this chacha.
Ang angal ko diyan sa chacha ay ito. Ayokong habang-buhay na maghahari sa atin si Gloria sa mga kadahilanang kung bakit ang malaking bahagi ng taongbayan ay nagbibigay sa kanya ng maliit na popularity rating at maliit na approval rating, hindi lang maliit kundi negative pa! Naniniwala ako na may basehan sila, at lalabas ang totoo kung hindi susupilin ng mga nasa puwesto sa taas ng gobierno ang true democratic process na dapat umiiral sa ating bansa.
kung ganoon ka-ayaw ng taongbayan si gloria, tama ba naman iyon na isasaksak siya sa ating mga lalamunan ng sapilitan sa pamamagitan ng CHACHA?
kung hindi pwede ang ‘talsik now’ ok lang sa akin, payag na nga ako sa ‘wait-for-2010’, subali’t, CHACHA? Asus, anthony!
pero gusto mo iyon, sige. abangan!
“heto ang sabi ko earlier:
“oh yes im a cha cha advocate, but not paid. i advocate a unicameral parliamentary form of government (like UK or Japan or Thailand), and the relaxation of limits in the economic provisions of the constitution – ito lang at wala nang iba”–anthony s.
iyan ang sabi mo, anthony, pero iyan din ba ang sabi ng mga alipores ni gloria, baka hindi.
tandaan mo anthony na alam nila kung paano ang ‘do-or-die’, makaka-angal pa ba tayo kung do-or-die chacha ang gagawin nila?
kaya ako paranoid. yes, grd?
bert,
do or die ba kamo? naaalala mo pa ba kung ano ang nagyari last time na ipilit nila ang chacha? nandoon na sana sila jdv di ba? ba’t biglang kumambyo?
i’m sorry but i think you’re too negative. you’ve been ranting about this gloria staying beyond 2010 all over the threads here and it’s so annoying. i say, don’t be paranoid and don’t worry too much. the people will act when the right time comes. pero hindi na uubra yang gusto nyong “talsik, now na”.
DJB,
That will be good if the 9 jokers are exposed as part of the mafiosi errr malacanang conspiracy to cover their tracks unfortunately it’s a long shot but not necessarily impossible since no one is talking as if they were Nerified too, lol.
I am sure the “comrades” of Gloria in the CCP puwitburo errr politburo are paying attention on what is going on? What with the soft loans they gave “comrade” Gloria that is open to fraud and judging from what we know now if proven accurate will not only expose corruption in Gloria’s administratong but also her “comrades.” The possibility of an escape goat for propaganda purposes is not a remote possibility since China’s leadership are too concerned with how they are perceived by the western world.
in the recent neri decision, the supreme court as a collegial body has articulated, as required, its reasons for its ruling. i don’t see anything in it that would “disgrace†it as an institution, as mlq3 and his friends speculate. – Bencard
The reality is the SC cannot put to rest major controversies of profound consequences over its decisions unless a free people approve them. A good example is the Javellana decision. The SC ruling in Javellana might not be outrageously “disgraceful†as in fact it had a “color of constitutionality†as pointed out by Manolo.
Javellana had prolonged Marcos dictatorship but the Filipino people by the exercise of People Power eventually ended the reign of Marcos by throwing him out together with his constitution that Javellana validated. Fortunately for the Filipinos, Marcos was forced to accept his loss in peace; on the other hand, the integrity of the majority in Javellana was dented for keeps. In the end, the people triumphed.
If Arroyo has great Marcosian instinct and hutzpah that allow her to cling to power for now so do the Filipinos have their overriding Pinoy impulsion. Shouldn’t we know this already?
Abe, Bencard,
Ordinary folks without legal background would examine and form their own view of the 9-6 SC ruling. No matter how someone justifies it in the legalese, the people are inclined to see it in any or all of these possibilities:
(1) condoning/abetting corruption,
(2) stressing the right of one person (Gloria) for executive privilege but depriving millions of Filipinos their right for information,
(3) selective justice that penalizes so-called whistleblowers but rewards corrupt officials,
(4) a cover-up of wrongdoing (bribery)
As Bishop Cruz lamented, the wrongdoings in this “morally bankrupt” govt are already evident, what evidence does one still need to make the point?
is this the reason why you hied off in the u.s. during martial law? just asking.
in previous decisions (PP 1017, EO 464,CPR, Garci Tapes) the supreme court as a collegial body has articulated, as required, its reasons for its ruling. i don’t see anything in them that would “disgrace†it as an institution, as Sec. Gonzalez and GMA lovers speculate. what should disgrace it would be the inflammatory words and actions of critics whose designs were thwarted (including some of the dissenting members) and who attribute (pinoy style) all sorts of ill-motives which, to my mind, invite disobedience, disrespect of, and contempt of our judicial system.
had the supreme court always been a rubber stamp, or has it suddenly became one when neri v. senate turned up? is ‘rubber stamp’ an attribute, or a description?
anthony scalia :
…
oh yes im a cha cha advocate, but not paid. i advocate a unicameral parliamentary form of government (like UK or Japan or Thailand), and the relaxation of limits in the economic provisions of the constitution – ito lang at wala nang iba …
anthony, UK, Japan, and Thailand all have a BICAMERAL parliamentary form of government
Anthony S.:
The reason this decision makes us praning is that if Con Ass is revived, for sure the question of whether the two houses of Congress vote separately or jointly to ratify will come before the SC. And a 9-6 decision for voting jointly will effectively make Chacha a done deal. The new Constitution will surely be a parliamentary system, and as I posted in a previous topic, parliamentary systems generally do not have term limits. Do I need to spell out the rest of the scenario?
Now I do not know if that will be enough for the likes of you, Bencard, The Ca t, Rego, etc. (forget Benign0–he couldn’t care less) to change your mind about People Power, but by then it’s probably too late anyway. The entire government will have been taken over legally, so most likely we will all have to bow our heads and kiss GMA’s ass just like Bencard did after she pardoned Erap.
Now, I don’t like the taste of shit, so if by protesting, I can help prevent that scenario from coming to pass, I will. If that’s being praning, better praning then sorry.
“MANILA, Philippines – After bringing his case to the media, a Benguet farmer who complained that President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo did not pay for the strawberries she gathered from his farm a week ago finally got his payment Friday night.” – GMA 7
GMA, you have not helped the farmers at all and now you want to steal their produce too.
Is Pinas as close to failure as Zimbabwe is? If so, a point to ponder:
What the history of Zimbabwe shows us is that the voice of the people is not necessarily as important as the part played by the elites,” says Chris Maroleng, a senior researcher at the Institute for Security Studies in Tshwane, South Africa. “If any change is to occur, it will not be a regime change, it will be a regime reconstitution, with the ruling elite from the ZANU-PF giving consent for Mugabe to be replaced. We may be seeing this occur.”