In today’s Inquirer editorial, the paper thinks the government’s trying to politicize the price of gas; this reflects the attitude of people like Norwegian Would who think we’ve moved forward since the days of subsidized oil:
It is now close to a decade since we finally smashed the old illusion that oil price subsidies were pro-poor, perpetuated for a long time by the middle and upper class leaders of so-called ‘people’s organizations.’ Note that at that time nominal prices were below 20 dollars per barrel. Now the high is about five times. But we don’t hear of any outrageous manifestos that the increase is caused by the local ruling class in conspiracy with foreign capitalists, do we?
Despite its moderate optimism, the Inquirer’s Sunday editorial proved prophetic, in a sense, as it warned of the consequences if politicking intruded into the Batasan bombing investigation too early. The news reported Ermita clears Salapuddin on Batasan blast which led to backpedaling on his part, today: Palace executive says he did not clear Salapuddin. But the damage has been done: as Senator Genaro Magsaysay famously said, “less talk, less mistake.” The dangers of higher-ups saying something were obvious to begin with.
Last Thursday I had a chance to run into Rep. Roilo Golez whose observations, however, made sense to me. He said that if assassination was the aim, then the opportunity presents itself in two places: where the target lives, and where the target works (incidentally, on Wahab Akbar, see Torn and Frayed and Sidetrip with Howie Severino).
Add to this, he said, the fact that we don’t have a suicide bomber culture, and that includes killers intent on killing themselves, too. So an assassin would make saving his own hide a high priority. This limits the opportunities, Golez said. Between home and work, the target’s convoy would make assassination difficult. You’d expect home to be well secured. But work -well, in the case of Akbar, the opportunity was there, particularly as he seemed to have suffered from a false sense of security while at the House, leaving by the same entrance like clockwork. An assassin, Golez observed, would run the risk of being gunned down after shooting his target, unless he was capable of making the 300 meter dash to the main entrance before anyone noticed what had happened. This means, if a getaway is important to the assassin, a bomb would be best. The other possibility, that the bombing was undertaken by a rogue element within the military, is a possibility Golez’s very uncomfortable with. No such inhibitions from Inner Sanctum.
Still, Amando Doronila says Blaming Abus was convenient for probers while Uniffors remains puzzled by the use of a bomb to do something small arms fire could have accomplished.
Scriptorium says the bombing raises three questions (read the whole entry, particularly his belief our society isn’t about to fall apart, just yet):
First, how could they think to do it? For while the legislators are not deemed epitomes of integrity–and in recent years, in fact, the Lower House has seemed lower still, a very expensive rubber stamp fit for a Queen–, they are legislators nonetheless, anointed with the ill-used but still real dignity of representing the nation in its districts and sectors; and an attack on them remains, by constitutional fiction, an attack on us. The bombing was therefore not only an attempt at mass murder–or perhaps at simple murder with multiple collateral casualties–but a national lese majeste, an brazen act of political sacrilege that makes us shudder for its confidence and contempt.
This takes us to the 2nd concern: Who then is safe? If our legislators with their security force and phalanxes of bodyguards can be attacked at the very center of their power, then what of us–who, when we ride the trains and enter the malls, have only private guards to keep us unharmed, searching our bags for bombs they would hardly recognize, shielding us more from comfort than from danger? The Glorietta “gas explosion” was bad enough; and even as we continue our daily routines, we know that we’ve gone back to the second lowest step of Maslow’s hierarchy (if, that is, we ever left it, or ever ascended from the first). One can hardly blame the tourists and investors for staying away, for they have a choice. We have none, and must go as before, though perhaps adding a prayer for safety to our morning rituals.
The 3rd concern proceeds from the foregoing: What next? Was this but the first ledge of a descending cascade of violence, unleashed by maybe Maoists, Islamists, Arroyoists, or random thugs? Will our government seize on it as an excuse to formally impose martial law, which it has proven all-too-willing to do for the most intangible reasons? In this light, though the intentions behind the attack are still uncertain, and its economic and social results remain to be seen, the needed policy response is already clear: For the sake of the nation and its people, the violence must be halted now, and its real perpetrators must be identified and prosecuted as soon as possible–but the means used must not, through excess, threaten to destroy the very ideals they seek to protect. More anon, perhaps, when more facts come to light.
More questions are raised by Postcard Headlines. But Mon Casiple asks the real question on everyone’s mind: are they Coincidences or real political moves? He’s a bit ambiguous on this score:
At the moment, the political situation points to the imperative on the president to make a decisive decision soon on which path she will take to ensure her own survival beyond 2010. The name of the game right now is called “transition management.”
She does not have much time left for her to decide (and make this public) since all the options require long and difficult preparations. All the interested political actors–within and outside her ruling coalition, local as well as foreign–know this. All are exerting pressure to push their own agenda and–the jackpot–to be the one to manage the transition.
Of course, GMA may not really leave the scene–witness her pronouncements on a charter change initiative. There are some in her coalition who wants to use the charter change to extend her term in power (and their own) and they are moving heaven and civil society to make this happen.
However, the chances for this are slim, unless her administration scatters the opposition and unleashes white terror on civil society. The desperate temptation to declare martial law or a state of emergency stem from the reality of a people’s resistance to charter change under GMA’s tutelage.
It is a coincidence that dramatic events such as the Batasan bombing, the Dalaig assassination, or the Glorietta incident occur one after the other in this moment of political conjuncture. Still-unfolding events will show whether these are real coincidences or planned moves in a game of political strategy.
Meanwhile, bureaucratic intramurals: Battle looms over control of Justice.
Overseas, see Malaysia Demos: Sound and Fury, Signifying Little in Asia Sentinel.
My column for today is The future’s bright (and thanks to the San Jose-Recoletos student publications editor-in-chief, who blogs at ~~peAceOuS viCioUs~~ for her kind words). On a Visayas-related note, see Boljoon Dig part 1 and Boljoon Dig part 2, in CAFFiend, on some remarkable archeological diggings there. Interesting entries, on provincial history, in Kanlaon and A Nagueño in the Blogosphere. Interesting notes, too, in The Magnificent Atty. Perez, referring to the Iloilo-Cebu connection.
Elsewhere in the blogosphere, I failed to read Blackshama’s Blog’s reaction to my columns on Marcos. But now that I have, you know, I’m working on a theory. Marcos established a New Society as the dominant discourse: it justified the scrapping of the liberal-democratic order created in 1935; and it was,actually, the justification for Edsa 1 and even Edsa Dos -and explains the refusal of what was once Marcos’ strongest constituency, the middle and upper classes frightened by Communism, to be politically engaged since 2005. Neither Edsa created a New Society, so why bother?
Think of it. Sift through all the reasons people give for not being politically active since 2005 (never mind examples of extreme social alienation, as shown in , or of guilt, as expressed by Hello Tiger Kitty), sift through the things people enumerate as everything wrong with this country (oligarchy, etc.) and then sift through what they want -basically, a Year Zero- and where it might be headed (a swing to the Right, suggests Ren’s Public Notebook) what do you have?
Ang Bagong Lipunan!
Another idea to explore is described in History Unfolding’s entry on Politics and Fourth Turnings:
William Strauss and Neil Howe, who wrote Generations and The Fourth Turning, divided American history into periods of approximately 80 years, called saeculums (Latin for a long human life.) In turn they divided each such period into four “turnings,” a High, an Awakening, an Unraveling and a Crisis. After the civil war crisis, the High lasted approximately from 1867 to 1885, the Awakening from about 1885 to 1905, the Unraveling until 1929 or so, and the crisis through 1945. In our own time the High ran from 1945 to 1965, the Awakening from then until the mid-1980s, the Unraveling from about 1985 until. . .sometime in the last 8 years.
This is a concept that resonates with me, because I approached recent events along similar (though not as intricate) lines in.
The Marocharim Experiment on the sociology of dance moves. It’s sad to note Patsada Karajaw has vanished from the blogosphere.
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“Media people should begin to ask themselves where should they draw the line between covering the news and being part of the news. Some people have the distinction down pat. Our media people don’t, I suppose.”
yes. eto lng nman ang nakakasuka sa media natin. minsan sa kawalan ng laman ng kino cover nila, kung ano-ano na lang ang ginagawa nila para i sensationalize ang story.
hanggang sa sarili na nila ang kino-cover nila.
parang mga bata na nagsusumbong.
reminds me of the 2001 riot. isang segment dinevote ng ABS nung itinumba yung van nila nga mga rioters.
but just because we have some irresponsible mediamen doesn’t mean we need to dispense with FREE PRESS altogether. eh kung ganyan din lng, sa dami ng gagong pulis natin, i-dismantle na rin natin ang law and order.
mag hari na ang anarkiya.
“It was explained that some of the renegade soldiers disguised as media people.”
Does that include Ces Drilon and Pinky Amador? 😀
Very lame reasoning and what a wasted opportunity on the part of the government. Arroyo could have trumpetted it as political victory, but now they have to face a major PR problem and its repercussions.
As one media organization said: “This government claims it is protecting democracy. It should realize that media is a prime component of the democracy it purports to serve.”
“For the safety of everyone, we’re going out … because we cannot live with our conscience if some of you get hurt in the crossfire,” said Antonio Treleleng.
Those who believe in what this kid says, raise your right hand.
“Ay yong media sa Manila Pen. Mga GMA critics din yon.”
So merely being critical of the GMA administration justifies arrest? I’m sure not. God bless to everyone.
saka isang note lang, MEDIA in this instance, was right to insist on covering the actual surrender of Trillanes and company.
if they allowed themselves to be corralled and put outside before the PNP and AFP went inside, you can be sure the likelihood of rub-out was a very high possibility.
and who would be witness to such a thing?
The SWAT team could jz as easily claim that Trillanes’ group attempted to fight back even if that wasn’t the case.
you see, absence of media eyes opens up all possibilities for cover-ups. that’s why a FREE PRESS is the cornerstone of all democracies.
and the danger posed to mediamen? if ever, will come from the police side. nakita naman natin na walang intensyon ang side nina Trillanes na manakit ng sibilyan. pinapalabas na nga nila ang media para makasuko na sila di ba?
why would the police worry abt mediamen getting hurt kung di naman sila magko commando?
aminin na: may planong mag commando at lansagin sina Trillanes that’s why gustong paalisin ang media. kopong-kopong na lang ang excuse na may nagdi disguise na Magdalo as media men. if that was the case, ba’t selective ung pagpalabas?
they could’ve cordoned off the whole hotel and taken everyone who went out of the hotel in one place. pero selective. ilang media personnel lang ang piniling i-detain. bakit? dahil may nakuha ba silang footage na detrimental sa admin? at bakit kailanagan kumpiskahin ang mga gamit nila?
JUst learned this inccident from a freind and she saw it when teh “soldiers” surrenderred.
Our reaction here:
Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Nagpatawa na naman si Trillanes.
“The journalists could have easily covered the event from outside the PEN but they didn’t.”
Silent Waters, sana mag trabaho ka as a journalist. tapos i-cover mo ang SONA sa labas ng batasan.
ano naman kaya ang makikita sa labas ng hotel kundi building lang?
tapos pag nagsabi ng ganito at ganoon ang mga reporters, aangal kayo na unverified, pure accusations, innuendos.
ano ba talaga kuya?
ayun, close to the action. para walang makapag sabi na the media is making things up. mga manonood na bahalang mag husga. basta nakukunan. eh nung nakita ko ngang building lng ang kinukunan ng ABS at GMA, inilipat ko sa CNN at BBC. buti pa tong mga networks na to, may shots sa loob.
critics = destabilizers
Different situation altogether…..one has firearms off their safeties which means there’s danger lurking…the other is just plain SONA….
As for the possibility of people being killed….dapat inisip niya yun bago niya pinasok…obvious ba na planado…di naman spontaneous if they planted people posing as media AND have their dismissed colleagues around them? Sus, just because we hate GMA doesn’t mean what Treleleng did was right…
Right you are BrianB.
🙂
Kasi walang dumating na People Power. Naniniwala kasi sa mga survey.
Survey o no survey, Filipinos won’t join any destabilization attempts before Christmas. They’re too busy to shop and wait for their bonuses.
Stupid talaga.
Nassan na ang mga obiso na ang claim ay inosente sila sa plano ni Treleleng.
Liars. Matapang lang pag magkakasama.Buti nga Catholic nation pa ito at may respeto pa sa mga obispong yan na balak Mag ala Cardinal Sin.
Sheesh.
silent water, ang analogy ko?
how can you cover the story when you are outside?
to cover the SONA, you need to be inside Batasan.
to cover the takeover and take Trillanes group’s statements, the reporters need to be inside the hotel.
e ano namn iko-cover nila sa loob? yung patambling tambling ng SWAT papasok ng hotel? statements ng militar? tapos sisigaw sila sa ng: o ano na nangyayari jan sa loob? pakisabi nman samin ng mai-report namin!
o di kaya’y ire request na lng nila ang militar na ikwento n lng sa kanila ang nangyari sa loob pagkatapos?
rrrright!
e sa gyera nga may mga war correspondents. sabihan mo nga sila na i-cover na lang ang istorya malayo sa mga pangyayari. baka tawanan ka lang at tawaging ulol.
“e ano namn iko-cover nila sa loob?”
corection. sa labas pala.
silent water, u have to understand that i am not condoning Trillanes group’s actions. just as i didn’t during oakwood. what i am protesting is the way this admin is using this event to curtail certain liberties we enjoy.
sa maliit yan nagsisimula eh.
una detaining of mediamen and confiscation of their equipments. sunod closing down of TV stations. sunod, wala ka nang freedom of speech.
una curfew lng muna from midnight to 5 am in manila and outlying provinces. sunod nyan curfew na sa buong Luzon. tapos curfew 24/7 sa buong Pilipinas. gigising na lang tayo na preso na sa sarili nating bayan.
eto ang comparison ko:
2001 riot: maximum tolerance. when the greatest danger to public lives and property were being posed by the rioters.
Peninsula Hotel: when danger is cordoned off in one building, tear gas, apc at commando attack pa sana.
detained na sina Trillanes, nag curfew pa!
mapasarap lang sina Esperon sa curfew na yan, lalawig pa yan!
Did the media covering this recent antic of Trillanes know the difference between responsible media coverage and playing unwittingly as tools of psy-war?
Information and disinformation are weapons in the hands of people who know how to use them. They are not as innocent and harmless as some people would like or perceive them to be.
mga babaeng call center agents, wag n lng kayo pumasok!
baka kung ano pa mangyari sainyo sa check point.
wag na magpa abot ng 10 pm sa labas.
janjararan na ang mga militar at pulis!
hapi-hapi na to!
Jaxius, who defines what is responsible and what is not?
so the solution for irresponsible media men is to dissolve media altogether?
the solution to corrupt politicians is to dissolve government altogether?
well, it seems the anarchists had the right idea after all.
The news said that it is difficult to process the media in Manila Pen, they have to bring them to the station.
Not all media people are as popular as ces drilon and pinky amador. Masama ring tingnan kung pakakawalan ang media dahil kilala sila.
now, this is not only rotten eggs splattered on the face of gloria haters, it’s warm, unadulterated excrement from trillianes, et al. anybody still want to debate the irresponsibility and idiocy of the current philippine “media”? at the rate these “journalists” are going, they could yet succeed in making themselves irrelevant and kill press freedom as we know it.
and now, here’s this quintessential opportunist of a presidential wannabee, roxas (what a disgrace to the name). he wants everyone to be grateful to trillianes for not using his gun and thus prevented bloodshed. kind of like making a hero out of an armed hijacker for throwing his gun in surrender when confronted by deadly force of the law. either the chap is an outright idiot, or he has a very low regard for the people’s intelligence. either way, it is obvious he is talking from both sides of his mouth and pandering to the advocates of gma’s forced removal from office. i don’t think it’s a bright idea to start his campaign for the presidency in 2010.
Bencard, matagal ko nang di gusto yang Roxas na yan. mukhang oportunista. kaya lang siguro nagpakasal ki Korina yan para sa media mileage.
Si Villar naman, umasim ang tingin ko nung umupo ngayong senate president. lahat ng aspirations nung bumoto sa kanya, binastos nya.
“Masama ring tingnan kung pakakawalan ang media dahil kilala sila.”
mas masama sigurong tingnan na sasabihin nilang ayaw nilang makatakas yung mga nagdi-disguise, tapos heto me sikat at kilala nang journalist, dinetain pa din nila.
baka daw kasi disguised lang as ces drilon or pinky amador!
parang si Hannibal. kiniskis yung skin ng mukha ng biktima nya at isinuot.
kasali pala sa Ellen sa mga nagdi disguise na Magdalo.
curfew guidelines issued by the PNP – from PDI.
shot not mulct, extort, or harass…
e pano naman kaya imo-monitor to? hapi-hapi na ang mga nasa checkpoint!
pag may nag reklamo, sagot nila: prove it. then deny to death.
Easy for one to say that nobody will cry murder if a journalist gets killed in the line of fire….let’s wait if something happens…knowing how narrow minded some people are in media…guess what…the soldiers are again the villains…hay….up to now people don’t get it talaga..
As for curtailing freedom, I suppose those left leaning communists are so much better at preserving our freedoms (I just look at the USSR, Cuba, North Korea and the old PROC) and I certainly know what these Maoists can certainly do…
“As for curtailing freedom, I suppose those left leaning communists are so much better at preserving our freedoms (I just look at the USSR, Cuba, North Korea and the old PROC) and I certainly know what these Maoists can certainly do…”
anong konek naman nang mga tinukoy mong bansa sa sitwasyon na to? nilalayo mo ang usapan eh. sagutin mo ang mga argumento ko. ano bang Maoists ang pinagsasasabi mo? brainwashed ka na ba?
sina Trillanes at BGen Lim Maoists? lolz.
silent water, mali yata pangalan mo. dapat siguro dark water.
Hi Bencard, i’d like to invite you to take this quiz:
http://www.politicalcompass.org/
http://www.politicalcompass.org/test
I’ll post your results in my blog.
Same invitation to Jaxius, Rego, Geo, jonphil & Ca T.
I do agree that Mar Roxas is an opportunist. I also think the Roxas family line, starting from the President (who gave the Americans parity rights), to Gerry Roxas (who did not speak out against Marcos in time) down to the present Senator lack balls.
All I am saying is that the journalists should have known their place. They’re being told to get out so they won’t be in the line of fire but they insist on staying. You’re the one who brought up the topic of press freedom and the creeping martial law, not me.
I also believe in the freedoms this country has, but not at the expense of law and order.
For now,I will reserve my judgement on the so called arrest of the journalists. In any investigation, amidst any chaotic situation, it is understandable that they take everybody in the area INSIDE the building for questioning. My impression of media in our country is that they tend to shoot first and ask questions later. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, they cry foul???
silent, they insisted on staying bec if they didn’t, who would report the news? the SWAT team?
yes, i brought out press freedom and creeping martial law bec they are topics related to this discussion.
ano naman konek ng komunismo? ng USSR? ng Cuba? North Korea? at pano napasok ang Maoists sa usapan?
well, i also believe in press freedom. but we differ in what constitutes an expense of law and order. i believe that what the journalists did was not at the expense of law and order. i cant say the same abt the arrests of media men.
that’s why this admin is wrong. it uses law and order to suit its needs. mahahalata mo ang mga diktador dahil puro: rule of law ang bukambibig nyan. ano ba ibig sabihin nila ng rule of law?
rule of law. they are the law. so?
rule of them.
kesyo nasa tama ka o wala, wala nang paki yan.
sa rule of law ni Gloria, sya ang batas. at kahit may nakasulat nang iba, basta kung ano ang sabihin nyang batas, yang ang rule of law!
at pag may kumontra pa, ipaaaresto nya na talaga! dahil rule of law ang pinapairal nya!
Just a comment about Mr. Trillanes. Ang hirap kasi kay Mr. Trillanes, he believed in his own invincibility. AKala niya, porke’t binoto siya ng mga Pinoy, siya ay sinusuportahan na. What he doesn’t even realize is that it is really more of a protest vote against GMA than a vote FOR him. Siguro naman, back to reality na siya ngayon.
I never really liked him. He basically thinks He’s the Messiah of the Philippines.
So what do you then mean by the rule of lhaw? Granted that GMA has their problems. Still, I would like to find out what the law then is to you? The authorities tell you to get out so that you won’t be in harm’s place, yet you don;t follow. Does that mean the authorities were out of line kasi they were arrested for not following authority?
Eh kung ganun pala, every Tom, Dick and Harry should be able to just go in and have a blast, Literally.
In a chaotic situation as I described, does that mean the authorities can’t take them in for questioning?
This does not mean I am defending the regime. But rules and rules. IF a soldier is suddenly confronted with having to shoot the opposing party but suddenly had to stop because journalists were around, don’t you think that would be a problem? Or do we just go ahead and shoot the opposing party and the journalists kasi pinili nila mag stay dyan? The point I am trying to make is, sagabal sila para ma-resolve ang problem.
As for the communists stuff, I apologize. I may have been out of line.
bat mo ba kami inaaresto?
kasi ipinapatupad ko ang rule ko, este, rule of law pala.
ano ba ang rule of law?
di mo ba nabasa sa constitution? the president shall enforce all laws and enslave the people if necessary to preserve the law.
eh kala ko po, the president serves the people and not the other way around?
ganon ba? tsismis lang yun. pinalaki akong royalty ni daddy. kaya ako ang reyna. kayo ang muchacha.
di ba sina Trillanes po ang may warrant of arrests at contempt order? ba’t po pati mga media men inaresto?
di ko sila feel, paki mo. saka, napanood ko to sa Hannibal eh. Me Magdalo na nagdisguised as Ces Drilon and Pinky Amador. hay! the nerve of them! kaya ayun, pina aresto ko na lang lahat para sure.
Eh yung curfew po para san?
San pa? e di para sa rally bukas. how stupid do you think i am na papayagan kong mag congregate ang mga raliyista dito sa Manila bukas? which reminds me, Trililing, thank you for giving me a way to declare the curfew. kahit hate kita, love na kita ngayon. now i can do whatever i want and blame it on you! isn’t that peachy? i can even extend this curfew forever! can you imagine? or widen it even! just think of the possibilities! my god! im having orgasms just thinking about it. even JoPi never gave me that. hihihi. JoPi. that’s what I call FG’s you know…
what happens next mam?
i will continue to enforce the rule of law.
and that would be?
whatever i say it is.
and how about come 2010?
oh you mean the people prophesizing I will never step down? oi you ha. op cors i’ll step down. i’ll even swear in front of the pope, or Golgotha even, if you want. what are words anyway? right?
As of now, 17 of those journalist “arrested” as per your interpretation has been released. The government wants to verify their identification as media practitioners instead of Trillanes supporters pretending to be media practitioners.
Yan ang problema sa media. Yun lang pala ang ginagawa ng police. Foul na kaagad.
You should also read today’s Inquirer Editorial. Interesting perspective on the adventure. Trillanes actually used the media as his protective shield. The standoff would have ended earlier if NOT for the media who insisted on staying….
Media spouts, wala raw National Security issue. Eh ano ba ang tawag mo sa ginawa ni Trillanes, picnic sa Pen? Kung walang National Security issue, bakit ki-nover siya ng media? Puleez…
Don’t let your hatred of GMA cloud your judgement ON THE POLICE and MILITARY actions in this particular incident. They did their job to defend the Republic from Trileleng who thinks he’s the Messiah of the Philippines.
“The authorities tell you to get out so that you won’t be in harm’s place, yet you don;t follow. Does that mean the authorities were out of line kasi they were arrested for not following authority?”
they wouldn’t be out of line if you’re just a regular civilian. journalists aren’t every Tom, Dick and Harry.
“IF a soldier is suddenly confronted with having to shoot the opposing party but suddenly had to stop because journalists were around, don’t you think that would be a problem? Or do we just go ahead and shoot the opposing party and the journalists kasi pinili nila mag stay dyan? The point I am trying to make is, sagabal sila para ma-resolve ang problem.”
sagabal lamang yung mga journalists, bec the admin chose to resolve the problem, WITH FORCE. to an observer such as me, there was no clear and present danger posed by the Magdalo group. they did not take anybody hostage nor threaten to hurt anybody. no sense in ordering that kind of heavy action. it betrays how paranoid Gloria really is. all they called for is for the people to withdraw their support for GMA.
you think someone who was confident he/she governed well will be concerned? why be deathly afraid?
but if this admin chose to resolve the crisis thorugh negotiations, journalists would have been instrumental in providing the channels to do so.
all im saying: this admin’s concept of law and order is twisted.
Really? You think the government will just sit back and relax as Trillanes and Lim mouths off their slogans.
And why do you say there’s no clear and present danger. The fact remains that they TOOK OVER A BUILDING FORCIBLY. Again, your logic tells me ok lang pala to do a criminal act for as long as it’s against GMA. Ganun ba?
I do agree that GMA’s concept of law and order is twisted. But there are safer avenues to reflect that frustration. As the old saying goes, two wrongs don’t make a right.
don’t let your hatred of Trillanes cloud your judgement of GMA.
Trillanes has been exposed as fake by this shenanigan of his, that i can tell you. at least for me. i can think of a dozen ways to protest the unjust way their court case was being handled. but least of all this.
it seems eto lang ang alam na gawin ni Trillanes. pity. wala pa sya sa kalingkingan ni Ninoy. ni kailanman di nangailangan mag hole-up sa isang posh hotel at magpapansin. nag hunger strike lang.
and yung ginawa ni Trillanes is not a national security issue. don’t confuse Gloria’s security with national security.
I, for one, do not confuse the two. At the end of the day, She, undeservingly, is still the de facto President of the Republic. Therefore, anything that may cause her government to fall IS a NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE, no matter how you slice it.
Any President/Prime Minister/Leader worth his salt will always defend their regime. Do not assume that they will just lie back and let themselves be trampled upon.
“Again, your logic tells me ok lang pala to do a criminal act for as long as it’s against GMA. Ganun ba?”
di mo ba binabasa sinulat ko? nasa taas, sabi ko i dnt agree with what Trillaned has done. Oakwood. and now this.
ang sinasabi ko, walang clear and present danger sa sinuman. that was evident. you can see sa TV na Trillanes and company has no intent in harming anyone. VERY CLEAR. it was wrong to deploy such massive force. dapat dinaan sa negosasyon.
oo. dapat nag sit back na lng si madam at pinabayaan na magdadakdak sina Trillanes. eh kung sa tiwala sya na sa kanya naniniwala mga tao eh wala syang dapat ipag alala. ikaw, if you governed well, matatakot ka ba sa loko-lokong nagdadakdak na patalsikin ka? e kung ako yun, pinabayaan ko lang ma expose ang kagaguhan ng mga pinag gagawa nya para makita nang taung bayan kung sino talaga ang huwad.
“As the old saying goes, two wrongs don’t make a right.”
kaya pala nung gumawa ng wrong si Trillanes. inaresto rin nila mga media men. bec 2 wrongs dnt make a right. and they wanted to go left.
My judgement of GMA, for the record, is that she doesn’t deserve to be President simply because she has not been able to morally lead the country.
But it doesn’t mean that I will condone any criminal action that will initiate her downfall. For me, taking over a building forcibly is CRIMINAL action.
i agree with you, silent waters. i believe the “journalists” were there not so much to report the “news” but first and foremost, to shield the perps from the law, and to act as medium of contact to the other co-conspirators outside the hotel and the rest of the country. i think they have made themselves accessories, if not accomplices, to the crime of rebellion. their refusal to heed the government’s request to leave the premises peacefully was obviously in bad faith, and appears to be a conscious effort to obstruct law enforcement and give aid and comfort to the rebels.
abs-cbn and maria ressa are all wet.
cvj, thanks for the invitation. i’ll do it as soon as i can.
How do you know there’s no clear and present danger? Sabi lang niya na wala siyang balak manggulo. If I was there, I will assume he has weapons in his hands. He also has other former soldiers who supported him during Oakwood. How do you know wala rin silang weapons? You go call them up and ask them nicelY? Logic dictates that in a situation where somebody decided to take over a building forcibly and have former soldiers hanging around to be your shield, you MUST assume that there may be firearms and that a firefight MAY occur. He was given a 3 pm deadline to surrender, did he pay heed? Only when teargas canisters were thrown in did he give up.
If I was government, I would also want the situation resolve asap. Given the previous experience with Oakwood, how do you know this won’t drag on???
Unfortunately, the cork has been taken out of the bottle and these military messiahs think they’re our saviors nga. Two times, EDSA I and II, people accorded them the crdit for breaking the camel’s back on these regimes so now they think they have to do it again. Is this what we want?
Yes.
“He was given a 3 pm deadline to surrender, did he pay heed?”
again, why the rush in capturing the group? is force really the only way to resolve the crisis? did the govt exhaust all options first?
again, no threats to harm someone. all the group wanted it seems was to keep on giving press conferences.
the govt should’ve allowed them to give it to their heart’s content and pursued negotiations.
ayaw pala nilang may madamay sa cross-fire insist sila ng insist sa commando style. o e ano naman kung inabot hanggang bukas ang negosasyon? may dinner date ba si Gloria? si Barias? baka makikipag eyeball pa sa ka-chat nya nung 3 pm kaya nagmamadali na.
To the journalists: They deserved to be handcuffed and “processed.” Who do they think they are. They choose to stay in, they suffer the consequences. They’re cry babies, ruined the entire news because of their whining. When some of them went to Iraq, they were an embarrassment. Sissy boys who only want face time but don’t really understand their duty as journalists.
With enemies like Trillanes, Gloria doesn’t need allies. Hell, the guy can’t even talk, how can he rally the people to a revolution. Such a young man but with so little potential. To think that I almost voted for him (came back home to vote but found out my name was taken from the registry). He truly acted as a damper our hatred for Gloria.
Bistado si Trillanes! What a glorious end he could have faced, instead he meekly went back to his jail cell. What a fake!